overland 737

[Logical]

Is there anyone else that are flying overlands 737 models with FS Passengers? I't seems to be something wrong with that combination.
When I land the computer "thinks" that I touch the runway before I do, thats why I get "that was a ruff landing" before I even touch down!
thanks for help!

[Dutch64]

I don't use the overland planes but it sounds something wrong with the contactpoints section then. Try contact points from a different 737 (just for
testing to see if that's indeed the cause)

[Logical]

Dutch64 wrote:
I don't use the overland planes but it sounds something wrong with the contactpoints section then. Try contact points from a different 737
(just for
testing to see if that's indeed the cause)

how fo I cange the contact points??

[vgage]

I fly the overland boeing and airbus planes. I have no problem with the 737 in any class. What is the landing feet/min are you touching
down? anywhere from 12ft to200 feet is a kiss 200-400 in a nice landing and 400 to 550 is ok landing. Anything over 600 feet per min
landing or touchdown will get you a ruff landing. anything over 500 feet will get you "that was a hard landing"
To change contact points you have to open up the aircraft.cfg file. That file is located within the airplane's folder in fs9
fs9/aircraft/simmer's sky/737/aircraft.cfg. as you scroll down you will see contact points. Make a backup on your hard drive and on a disk.
I know project ai has good planes as well as ai aardvark.
I do not think you need to change the contact points on the 737. Watch your pitch angel and flare on touchdown. Also know your speed at
which to land. I land the 737 around 130knots. Just before decision height I disengage autothrottle and reduce speed a little more and
flare the plane watching my angle of attack to make sure I do not stall. I am sure there are a lot of guys who can teach you better.
I do know that the overland/simmer's sky planes 777 and a330 do have contact points issues. I have used other planes in the class and
landed nice. For some reason my tail hits the ground with those planes. I know my landing angle was good..
Hope this helps

[Chuck]

This is true -- adjusting the scrape points in the aircraft.cfg file won't help. They use very forgiving specs in these models, and are similar
to the FDEs for the default aircraft in FS9 -- the scrape point for the tail on the Overland 737 series is actually up inside the fuselage about
a foot or so, so you really have to overrotate in order to get a tail scrape under normal, non-FSPaseenger fight conditions. I believe this
situation arises when FSPassengers feels that you are taking off too steeply, so even though the plane doesn't scrape, FSPassengers
penalizes you as though it does.

Chuck B.

[Chuck]

CORRECTION: The front nose wheel contact point was off in the aircraft.cfg file (the scrape points were all fine) so I moved it about 5 feet forward and about 1/2 foot down. Still testing, but it seems to do the trick.

Here is the new first line from the [contact_points] section of the aircraft.cfg for the 737-800:
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[contact_points]
point.0=1, 49.00, 0.00, -8.52, 1181.1, 0, 1.442, 55.92, 0.6, 2.5, 0.9, 4.0, 4.0, 0, 220.0, 250.0
------------------------------

Hope this helps someone!

Chuck B.



Post Edited ( 01-14-08 03:51 )

[captaincarl]

Hi,

I've also recently started flying the overland 737 and also noticed this problem, i shall try this later and let you know the results,

Cheers,

Carl

[captaincarl]

It hasn't worked guys

Does anyone have anymore ideas please?

Carl

[Chuck]

You're right -- this issue has never been resolved. After take off, try not rotating until 165 - 170 kts, and then if you don't rotate more than 8
degrees until you hear the wheels leave the ground -- usually 20 - 40 feet up - you won't get a penalty. If you do the same at landing - that is "land" the plane 50 - 75 feet off the ground, again you'll get no penalty. But it's hard.

I have no idea why this problem is limited to those great Overland '37s, but it stinks. Perhaps the FSPassengers team could somehow
be convinced to just give us a way to disable those two penalties like they do other, less offensive penalties in the more_option.cfg and
setup files.

Maybe if I send them a copy of the receipt for my Overland purchase from SimMarket? So they know I'm not trying to cheat??



Post Edited ( 06-01-08 21:27 )