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overland 737 - Logical - 12-08-2007
Is there anyone else that are flying overlands 737 models with FS Passengers? I't seems to be something wrong with that combination.
When I land the computer "thinks" that I touch the runway before I do, thats why I get "that was a ruff landing" before I even touch down!
thanks for help!
Re: overland 737 - Dutch64 - 13-08-2007
I don't use the overland planes but it sounds something wrong with the contactpoints section then. Try contact points from a different 737 (just for
testing to see if that's indeed the cause)
Re: overland 737 - Logical - 15-08-2007
Quote:Dutch64 wrote:
I don't use the overland planes but it sounds something wrong with the contactpoints section then. Try contact points from a different 737
(just for
testing to see if that's indeed the cause)
how fo I cange the contact points??
Re: overland 737 - vgage - 08-09-2007
I fly the overland boeing and airbus planes. I have no problem with the 737 in any class. What is the landing feet/min are you touching
down? anywhere from 12ft to200 feet is a kiss 200-400 in a nice landing and 400 to 550 is ok landing. Anything over 600 feet per min
landing or touchdown will get you a ruff landing. anything over 500 feet will get you "that was a hard landing"
To change contact points you have to open up the aircraft.cfg file. That file is located within the airplane's folder in fs9
fs9/aircraft/simmer's sky/737/aircraft.cfg. as you scroll down you will see contact points. Make a backup on your hard drive and on a disk.
I know project ai has good planes as well as ai aardvark.
I do not think you need to change the contact points on the 737. Watch your pitch angel and flare on touchdown. Also know your speed at
which to land. I land the 737 around 130knots. Just before decision height I disengage autothrottle and reduce speed a little more and
flare the plane watching my angle of attack to make sure I do not stall. I am sure there are a lot of guys who can teach you better.
I do know that the overland/simmer's sky planes 777 and a330 do have contact points issues. I have used other planes in the class and
landed nice. For some reason my tail hits the ground with those planes. I know my landing angle was good..
Hope this helps
Re: overland 737 - Chuck - 13-01-2008
This is true -- adjusting the scrape points in the aircraft.cfg file won't help. They use very forgiving specs in these models, and are similar
to the FDEs for the default aircraft in FS9 -- the scrape point for the tail on the Overland 737 series is actually up inside the fuselage about
a foot or so, so you really have to overrotate in order to get a tail scrape under normal, non-FSPaseenger fight conditions. I believe this
situation arises when FSPassengers feels that you are taking off too steeply, so even though the plane doesn't scrape, FSPassengers
penalizes you as though it does.
Chuck B.
Re: overland 737 - Chuck - 14-01-2008
CORRECTION: The front nose wheel contact point was off in the aircraft.cfg file (the scrape points were all fine) so I moved it about 5 feet forward and about 1/2 foot down. Still testing, but it seems to do the trick.
Here is the new first line from the [contact_points] section of the aircraft.cfg for the 737-800:
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[contact_points]
point.0=1, 49.00, 0.00, -8.52, 1181.1, 0, 1.442, 55.92, 0.6, 2.5, 0.9, 4.0, 4.0, 0, 220.0, 250.0
------------------------------
Hope this helps someone!
Chuck B.
Post Edited ( 01-14-08 03:51 )
Re: overland 737 - captaincarl - 28-05-2008
Hi,
I've also recently started flying the overland 737 and also noticed this problem, i shall try this later and let you know the results,
Cheers,
Carl
Re: overland 737 - captaincarl - 28-05-2008
It hasn't worked guys
Does anyone have anymore ideas please?
Carl
Re: overland 737 - Chuck - 01-06-2008
You're right -- this issue has never been resolved. After take off, try not rotating until 165 - 170 kts, and then if you don't rotate more than 8
degrees until you hear the wheels leave the ground -- usually 20 - 40 feet up - you won't get a penalty. If you do the same at landing - that is "land" the plane 50 - 75 feet off the ground, again you'll get no penalty. But it's hard.
I have no idea why this problem is limited to those great Overland '37s, but it stinks. Perhaps the FSPassengers team could somehow
be convinced to just give us a way to disable those two penalties like they do other, less offensive penalties in the more_option.cfg and
setup files.
Maybe if I send them a copy of the receipt for my Overland purchase from SimMarket? So they know I'm not trying to cheat??
Post Edited ( 06-01-08 21:27 )