[Closed] Blowing tires on every landing

[whiskey-zulu]

Depending on aircarft weight and weather conditions, anywhere between 135 KIAS and 155 KIAS with appropriate flap settings

[Mongoose]

whiskey-zulu wrote:
Depending on aircarft weight and weather conditions, anywhere between 135 KIAS and 155 KIAS with appropriate flap settings

I agree on the approach speeds Whiskey. My final landing speed in the 737 is around 125.
Also, the trick to making these landings without blowing a tire, along with the speed, is holding the aircraft in a nose up attitude until the
aircraft is on the ground, rear tires first. I always had a tendency to want to put the aircraft down almost level so I could see where I was going.
This will hold the plane in the air too long and then you will overcompensate by driving it onto the runway and blow a tire.
Hold the flare and let the aircraft settle onto the runway. I haven't blown a tire in many flights and I fly mainly the 737 and 747.

[whiskey-zulu]

Mongoose wrote:

whiskey-zulu wrote:
Depending on aircarft weight and weather conditions, anywhere between 135 KIAS and 155 KIAS with appropriate flap settings

I agree on the approach speeds Whiskey. My final landing speed in the 737 is around 125.
Also, the trick to making these landings without blowing a tire, along with the speed, is holding the aircraft in a nose up attitude until the
aircraft is on the ground, rear tires first. I always had a tendency to want to put the aircraft down almost level so I could see where I was going.
This will hold the plane in the air too long and then you will overcompensate by driving it onto the runway and blow a tire.
Hold the flare and let the aircraft settle onto the runway. I haven't blown a tire in many flights and I fly mainly the 737 and 747.

HAven't blown a tire in months, but have bent a fair number of main gear struts...oops

[albatros]

Dan....maybe you can iluminate me about this blow tire matter.

I fly only GA planes mostly slow and vintage. I do not use autopilot, ils aproaching, auto throtle and all the goodies of the sophisticate
gadgets. I fly by hand...not press buttons. You may wonder why I need FSPassenger for such small planes.... I like to listen to the
copilot.... give me the clues. I do not care of giving food, playing music or lisen to the silly girl coming to the cockpit.

My favorite plane is DO-27 in the Pro setting. This plane is a very demanding and you have to be very carefull how to handle in order not to
damage anything. In your program. I blow the tires, but the plane does no show any damage.
Do you not think that maybe.....maybe...could be a posiblility of some error in this case.......
Some time I use FSFlyingSchool, a nice program, but not the same. So far they have not complain about my hard landing....they have
complained about my heading......speed....and so far.....but never about the hard landing.

I think you program is GREAT.....Has everything.......I been using it for years in FS9.

I feel bad about this pilots who give you tips about avoiding tire blowing, such as pausing and so for in orher not to spoil a flight.....do not
you think they deserve the alternative of supress this blow tire nightmare?

Hope the new pacht will solve this case

Luis

PD. Excuse my poor English

[Powerke]

The tire blowing issue is a hard debated topic on these forums
And it has this forum divided in half ...with people that want to see this adressed in the next patch , and people
that are firmly against it.
I place my self in the first half.
Not that i blow that many tires...but when it happens its mostly in vintage aircraft.
I love to fly these old planes ..and use em in FSPX....but the paperthin rubbers under the planes have me
restricted to flying planes with a half decent autopilot.

There would be no harm to the integrety of the game should the option exist to disable this...
Yet flightsimmers tend to be a bit elitist when it comes to cutting corners.
Still they use time acceleration on the longer flights .... and i havent seen a modern plane with that option

My view is that MS FS and FSPX is a game...and most games should have an easy mode too.
And if you are a keyboard or mouse pilot ....landing a plane can be a real pain.
Blowing a tire only adds to the frustration.

Still i cant say to wich camp Dan belongs ....most ppl against it are long time fliers with a serious rep.

For now all i can give as advice is practice , practice and practice.



Post Edited ( 05-23-09 02:28 )

[stweaver321]

One thing that has not been discussed in this thread, but that is at the heart of the issue, is rank. Any game that has a ranking system needs
consistent rules by which those ranks are achieved. Otherwise, the ranks mean nothing. I see quite a few members with signatures that include their
FSP ranks. The easier you make it to achieve the higher ranks, the less they mean. One person may have accomplished C7 through hard work and
perseverance while another person may have achieved C7 by just turning off (disabling) features.

I sometimes get penalized for leaving a door open or for tail strikes. So, how about an option to disable these penalties!? Better yet, FSP for me
is not really any fun unless I have a higher rank....how about an option that allows me to set my rank to whatever I want it!!??

Seriously people, achieving by diligence and hard work is the most fun you'll ever have! Give it a try!

Any configuration that makes the career progression easier/less realistic should be reflected in the points awarded. The more realistic (harder) a person's configuration, the more points that should be awarded for a given flight.

stweaver321
C7 (earned the hard way)



Post Edited ( 05-25-09 16:32 )

[Scandinavian pilot]

Have also had problems with blowing tires since the beginning, so i practice, practice and practiced. Then everything went well, went up
rank after rank, until I could start flying large aircraft, the first big airplane was Douglas DC-3 and then I flew with Douglas DC-4 still, until I
could fly 40000kg aircraft, bought me an Airbus A319 and got a great whole wheat, could not land a good time with jet aircraft. So then i
started over again and practice, practice, practice. It helps large has been about the whole Saturday to practice and finally I was able to
land without problems .. Lesson is to practice

[yo_vpilot]

Awesome! I got my first blown tires.. =D touch down at about -400ft/min..

[SkyAirWorld]

!! Not quite a good thing!!

[stweaver321]

Made C8 today. I've only blown my tires twice so far in my FSP career.

[dannye92]

touch down at -223 last night in LFBO and my tire blew? lol

[whiskey-zulu]

dannye92 wrote:
touch down at -223 last night in LFBO and my tire blew? lol

Tire was probably in need of some TLC or it was one of the pre-programmed failures.

[damocles]

I bought FSX and FSPX recently and I had no Flight Sim experience. When I just used FSX after about a week I thought I was the bees knees landing BIG
jets and I thought this flying lark is easy.....I installed FSPX and my bubble burst as I realised I was falling into runways quite hard and I kept
crashing and when I didn't crash I wrecked my gears and blew out the tires......After a few days of become really frustrated with this, I thought,
hold on ! I need to learn how to land properly.

I added FSflyingschool to my collection and went back to basics and decided to take this seriously. I am so pleased I did. When you know what to
do,not only are your knuckles a different colour other than white, but the approach is so much less stressful - I know this sound stupid, but my back
used to be drenched in sweat after landing - This is the most stressful sim I've used....

I'm now getting the hang of it with a handful of safe landings on two propeller planes and I'm 'slowly' graduating up to bigger planes. Like others
have said, it's all about practice and I like the way FSPX is difficult as I probably would not have forced myself to learn otherwise ( good job FSPX
team ) and it's most rewarding when you know you've got the flight right and landed safely. Many virtual passengers have sacrificed themselves for my
learning curve for which I'm truly grateful.......

Good stuff.....

[abd zibdeh]

ive never had a blown tire but i have had a crash landing :S , i stalled in a 737-600 just before flare , i was too slow:S and the pilot was killed !
.but that was one of my first flights in a pmdg 737

[H3rn3s3]

135 knots on a 737-800 with 30/40 flaps?

140 knots on a 737-800 with 30/40 flaps?

I relalise it depends on weather and landing runway length, but in general...