[closed] FsPassengers for FSX official note and please !

[jeffreycor]

bashdabish wrote:

DanSteph wrote:
Yes, Aceleration use FSX-SP2 and FsPx is programmed to work with SP2 (will work only with SP2)

I have concerns regarding this. At present, I am unable to use SP2 due to a bug where FSX crashes when you access the alt menu bar.
Microsoft and Nvidia are blaming each other. Nvidia are blaming Microsoft and Microsoft are not releasing any more patches. The only
solution is to remove SP2.

Oh dear!

I have the same worry with this. I have seen many reports of people having problems after installing SP2. And not only people with nVidia
video cards either nor menu bar crashes alone but slower performance and graphics problems as well.

[HB-100]

Urthgental wrote:
@ HB-100:
So you will not join WT3 if FsPX will not be released in time? I really understand this.

I will join and fly it later in case FsPX isn't ready then. I also might join the one or the other flight without FsPX as guest. It's all about to
have fun and that's possible without FsPX also although it's hard without it I have to confess! I am always missing something. Sharon!

So well, I am stuck since 10 months the middle of a 72-legs 'discover europe' tour with my cessna 172 waiting at gibraltar to continue the
journey...

I think you could try to fake something with building a mission/adventure in FSX to get at least the feeling back into the cockpit.
If I hadn't started FSET then this is what I probabily had spend some time with.

But two months do not sound too bad, at least there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

As it is in SW projects they often will take longer than planed. But that's my wish to be finish within 2 month or faster. I need my life back!
Honestly I wanted to be finish before the NewYear. But well turned out to be impossible. Somehow as more as you do (program) as more
grows the work you still have to do. Strange but that's how it turns out always in such projects.

I don't wonder anymore that the devlopement of FsPx takes a lot time, specially when I read in what level Dan' programs. I wouldn't want
to do this. One thing I can tell you from my own experience with FSET now. As Programer you are glad and happy over every postive
comment/feedback. When you are stuck somewhere deep in the code and would like to throw everything at the next wall then this is what
helps one to keep his motivation and keep the thing going. At least so it is with me. So some positives feedback might help to fasten the
things more than everything else. I know that Dan is doing a hard work.

[DanSteph]

Well... I can't release one FsPx version for each patch, a lot of things changed in the dll. Working on an outdated version is not possible
also. So ...

I personnaly don't have any trouble with SP2 and it run very nice on my computer. (I have a 8800GTS)

Let assume this: if the problem is really bad Ms will release another patch even a minor one. At the time FsPx will be released I'm almost
sure *someone* will have solved the problem so I'll stick on SP2 version. I really don't have any choice on this anyway.

Dan

[Urthgental]

@ HB-100:

I think you could try to fake something with building a mission/adventure in FSX to get at least the feeling back into the cockpit.
If I hadn't started FSET then this is what I probabily had spend some time with.

After the initial release of FSX i expected a lot of missions to come... but nada. I think the SDK tools are ridiculous to be used by the masses for mission creation. At least I expected somebody would come with a product with an campaign editor that offers a storyboard and could create dynamic missions 'on the fly'. Actually i even thought in the beginning FSPassengers would utilize it. WT3 would be a great campaign

Anyway, I think these static missions are not the right approach...

As it is in SW projects they often will take longer than planed. But that's my wish to be finish within 2 month or faster. I need my life back!
Honestly I wanted to be finish before the NewYear. But well turned out to be impossible. Somehow as more as you do (program) as more
grows the work you still have to do. Strange but that's how it turns out always in such projects.

Well, i think FS is special here... The add-on community did evolve organically over many years. The FS franchise was not really designed as an open plattform for professional 3rd party add-ons... BTW, Phil Talyor once complained about 3rd party developers "that dig in FS internal memroy areas and do not restrict on the official interfaces... Not sure who was meant

Regards,
Heiko



Post Edited ( 01-08-08 01:06 )

[nckheinrich]

Lol 2 more months for FSPX man I learned my lesson. I bought FSX last christmas right when it came out. $60. Sure I tried it out for a day
but there was no vatsim, no fsp so I uninstalled it. To this day I still have not taken it back out of the box. I guess next time I'll need to wait
till I know all the addons I want are out before I buy the next version. Dan I appreciate all your hard work. Godspeed man.

[Aksakhirn]

DanSteph wrote:
Well... I can't release one FsPx version for each patch, a lot of things changed in the dll. Working on an outdated version is not possible
also. So ...

Dan

Hummmm.... Okay but what about the coming patches ? There surely will be a SP3 or something like that so what will become
FsP X in this way ?? Hope for you Dan that you won't have to re-write the soft each time a SP is released else you will !!!!

I have asked you another question yesterday but didn't get a reply so I ask it again : what about pricing of FsP X for the owners of FsP ?

And so we have around 2 monthes left before enjoying this new one ? My god it will be hard !!

An other information Dan : I've registered XPax for waiting FsP X and saw somethings very bad like when you're flying at a define flight
level and you want to reduce this level XPax automatically switch to descent even if it is not.
I hope that FsP X won't have the same fuc.... things !!!!

Really great to hear for the new features like seat belt integration wich should be a solution for what I just wrote above about Xpax !

Let's go on Dan ! We are still with you !!



Post Edited ( 01-08-08 09:43 )

[DanSteph]

Aksakhirn wrote:
Hummmm.... Okay but what about the coming patches ? There surely will be a SP3 or something like that so what will become
FsP X in this way ?? Hope for you Dan that you won't have to re-write the soft each time a SP is released else you will !!!!

Ms dev said that SP2 will be the last patch, anyway it's possible if too much peoples have problem with SP2 that a small SP* come that
adress only specific problem. In anyway switching from one patch to another is not so hard, I switched from SP1 to SP2 two days ago and
all work again. What is not possible is develloping for two versions in same time. Each time I add something I would need to switch from
one patch to another and redo the work , this would double dev time and add a lot of complication in code.

About rebate yes, there will be a rebate for owner of FsP.

Dan

[xandan]

wow comments have been flying recently haven't they lol

sorry for bein abit lol

[HB-100]

nckheinrich wrote:
Lol 2 more months for FSPX man I learned my lesson. I bought FSX last christmas right when it came out. $60. Sure I tried it out for a day

Aehm, Seems I have started confusion here. Uh was a bad idea to post.

Get it clear:
->The 2 month talk I did here was in connection with my project "Fs Earth Tiles" (Thread in FSX General section) that has NOTHING to do
with the programming of FSPassengers. Two completly different projects.

[Drew]

HB-100 wrote:


Aehm, Seems I have started confusion here. Uh was a bad idea to post.

You are making a confusion out of a confusion

DanSteph wrote:

pkmnlio wrote:
Nevertheless, I have a small question about FSP for FSX.
Do you have a clear date for its release?

Not yet, I expect to get it within two month but it's impossible to say yet. As said previously all may run smooth but one feature may block
me during several days and this is impossible to predict.

[gronji2004]

Dan,

Will some of the new features that you are implementing to FSPX be updated in a patch for FS9, or are you going to relelase a seperate patch for FS9,
or perhaps nothing for FS9 at all?

Regards,
Alex

[DanSteph]

I plan to update also FsP (2004) with some features of FsPx

Dan

[HB-100]

Drew wrote:

HB-100 wrote:
Aehm, Seems I have started confusion here. Uh was a bad idea to post.

You are making a confusion out of a confusion

oh, I am a confusion maker..

ok got it now where you have that 2 month from: (didn't read that post before, sorry sorry, so it was me that was confused )

DanSteph wrote:

pkmnlio wrote:
Nevertheless, I have a small question about FSP for FSX.
Do you have a clear date for its release?

Not yet, I expect to get it within two month but it's impossible to say yet. As said previously all may run smooth but one feature may block
me during several days and this is impossible to predict.

[Flying Monkey]

Great news Dan! The multi screen support is brilliant, and I'll cross my fingers hoping that in a few months I'll be able to forget about Cargo Pilot
and come back to FsPassengers! :p

By the way, I think FSX Missions work better for some type of flying than other, eg Bush Flying, GA, rescue flights can gain a lot from it, but it's
less obvious in the case of commercial airliners - although one easy fun thing to do, in theory, is to make a quick mission file with some timed
failure programmed in it and give the mission to your friends to take up the challenge. It's just a shame that you can't fly these in shared
cockpit... A big miss in my opinion.
Still, when it will be available I will always prefer the randomness and the maintenance related failures of FsP, nothing can beat that!

[xandan]

i know there isn't an official or estimated realse date, but when would there be a beta test, not an exact date or anything but like sometime between
feb - march or somthing like that would be a good enough answer lol