[closed] FsPassengers for FSX official note and please !

[fruitfly]

bashdabish wrote:
I have concerns regarding this. At present, I am unable to use SP2 due to a bug where FSX crashes when you access the alt menu bar.
Microsoft and Nvidia are blaming each other. Nvidia are blaming Microsoft and Microsoft are not releasing any more patches. The only
solution is to remove SP2.

Oh dear!

Check out this program:

menu_mate_fsx.zip at avsim.

It creates an aditional external menu that is totaly customizable.

I know this won't solve your problem, but it may help you bypass it; with it you won't need to access the "built in" menu that gives you a
headache.



Post Edited ( 01-10-08 09:26 )

[JayKae]

@xandan, we will advise you when the beta starts

[JowDK]

Hi Dan, do you got any further dato of release

Greetings from Copenhagen !!

[xandan]

so is there any news on progress for the start of this week??? or a screen shot =D lol

[mmmprod]

Oh yes !
I don't need news but a tasty screenshot would be very nice !
Keep up the good work Dan.

[Jambone]

Mmmmh BETA

[ar_hnazari]

Hi everyone.
I'm the most NEWBY in the forum I think.
First really thanks to Dan for the great work, FSX is like a dead body without FSP (FSPX or FSXP or whatever).
Second... I have an idea about BETA testing... sure I will do it myself.
I'm volunteer for BETA TEST, but with a big difference of course: I'LL PAY FOR THE BETA VERSION... and I wish Dan will give me the full
version free or with a less charge.
The decision is your bro, keep me posted.

[JayKae]

Now THAT is different

[crowebird]

lol you know just about everyone on here is going to be itching to be a beta tester the moment dan has a beta of FSPX ready... i know I
would like to be part of that team

[xandan]

i think everyone on this forum wants to be apart of it lol

[Flying Monkey]

Well, I don't think letting people pay to be beta testers would make much sense and be useful for the dev, as one wants a beta tester to be there to
help the dev - if the beta tester pays, he becomes a customer, and then he can start to complain about things that are not working, the beta version
causing wrong to the computer and so on and so on... I don't think any dev would like to deal with a confusing mix of the roles of beta tester and
customer

[jeffreycor]

Beta testers often complain anyway and use the oppertunity simply to play early rather than to test like is intended.
Quite a few actually do change a "service fee" for testing in an amount far more than is needed as well as making the testers download
the software after paying. So in reality they are paying to be testers.

[crowebird]

For FspX I dont think many will care to pay to test, or pay in advance type of thing becusae so many people are waiting to get their hands
on the program for FSX...
but serisouly... if beta testers are needed, I would love to help out

[highlander]

Why not charge people to be beta testers?

Microsoft do it all the time (the final release version = the last Service Pack released)

[DanSteph]

Yes one big problem is when you have 30 testers in fact you get at best 3-4 only helpfull and active as it should.

Testing is a real art work and there is a world beetween a good tester that "know his job" and someone that "play and report sometime
problems" (not to speak about those that play and never report anything or those that changed they intterest as soon as they got the beta,
those that visit the beta website once per week, those that don't understand even the title of your game etc etc)

A good tester is a mysterious combination of intteligence, maturity, knowledge, dedication and free time to spend for testing:

-Understand that testing is not only "playing and report problems", but a real and serious work that require a lot of efforts.
-Being mature and serious.
-Having a lot of time to dedicate for testing & feedback & discussions.
-Being verbose but straight (and knowing when to shut up, contant requests are as much annoying as no requests or suggestions at all
-Understand the "philosophy" of the "product" and being "in-topic" always ("...hey why not some rail gun that pax can carry and...")
-Knowing how to report bugs and what informations will be usefull for develloper. (no need to be develloper, only logic and inttelligence)
-Good knowledge of games and figuring things by themself. ("...hey how do I launch your game?...where is the doc ?...")
-Respond almost instantly (hours delay, not days) and understand immediattely develloper's request, questions, instructions.
-Sense of friendly communication and psychology (develloper is on heavy stress & work load when it's beta testing time)

Very good testers are an immense help and they are rare. 4 of the old team have already a place if they want. I'll never salute them
enough for their help on FsP 2004 ! And given how helpfull a good tester is I would feel ashamed to ask any fee for their work.

When time will come I'll contact some well know users of the forum and I'll also make a public call for testers. Until this time no need to
ask

Dan



Post Edited ( 01-19-08 05:29 )