[closed] FsPassengers for FSX official note and please !

[pegase]

Back to Fsp features,

Would it be possible to implement this inflight transition altitude/level setting ?

[carlucci]

Keep up the good work dan, I purchassed fsx delux three months ago and tried to get it to work right for 3 weeks. Finally I got fed up with
all the bugs and sent it back to microsoft in everett, Wa, for a full refund. Maybe next year all the patches and fixes will be in place and I will
buy it then........Later dan, Carl

[jacquesmomo]

[JetBlueInflight]

DanSteph wrote:

Wing Commander Bader wrote:
That's cool, take your time.

I work 12/24 on "FsxP"...

Wing Commander Bader wrote:
That's cool, take your time. What I need to know is will we have to pay for FS Passengers all over again, or will we
be able to upgrade for
free?

FsxP take a lot of time to devellop and this dev time is not free, me and my familly should eat also. (FsP is my only
income) But of course customers of FsP2004 will have a rebate for "upgrade".

Microsoft didn't made any rebate Fs9-&gtFsX unless I'm wrong ?

(In fact upgrade costed to me something like 2000 euro, I had to buy it two time because there was no SDK
in FsX standard and I have to buy also a new dual core to make it run... )

Anyway, great programming day today, I think I gained several month on the dev time of FsxP...


Dan

First of all I would just like to say that I have NO PROBLEM whatsoever paying for the new version of FSPassengers. Think about it, Dan
doesn't make money off of this continually, just the one time that you pay to purchase it. If he worked just as hard to make a new product,
damn right you should pay for it. Besides, when you think about how much you paid for FSX and think about how much you pay for
FSPassengers, there's no comparison.

Second of all, I purchased FSX, but stopped flying it for one, there is no FSPassengers, and the other reason that no matter what I have
tried so far, it works horribly. I do love what they have done with the game (if I could get to work), and I think FSPassengers would be HOT
on it, but I was just wondering if there was any hope for FSX to work well. Something makes me think that they just kinda gave up on
making it work on your average person's computer. I would love to fly it, but something about the game studering long enough for me to
go get a refill on my coffee just doesn't make it realistic.

[saint4]

JetBlueInflight wrote:

DanSteph wrote:

Wing Commander Bader wrote:
That's cool, take your time.

I work 12/24 on "FsxP"...

Wing Commander Bader wrote:
That's cool, take your time. What I need to know is will we have to pay for FS Passengers all over again, or will we
be able to upgrade for
free?

FsxP take a lot of time to devellop and this dev time is not free, me and my familly should eat also. (FsP is my only
income) But of course customers of FsP2004 will have a rebate for "upgrade".

Microsoft didn't made any rebate Fs9-&gtFsX unless I'm wrong ?

(In fact upgrade costed to me something like 2000 euro, I had to buy it two time because there was no SDK
in FsX standard and I have to buy also a new dual core to make it run... )

Anyway, great programming day today, I think I gained several month on the dev time of FsxP...


Dan

First of all I would just like to say that I have NO PROBLEM whatsoever paying for the new version of FSPassengers. Think about it, Dan
doesn't make money off of this continually, just the one time that you pay to purchase it. If he worked just as hard to make a new product,
damn right you should pay for it. Besides, when you think about how much you paid for FSX and think about how much you pay for
FSPassengers, there's no comparison.

Second of all, I purchased FSX, but stopped flying it for one, there is no FSPassengers, and the other reason that no matter what I have
tried so far, it works horribly. I do love what they have done with the game (if I could get to work), and I think FSPassengers would be HOT
on it, but I was just wondering if there was any hope for FSX to work well. Something makes me think that they just kinda gave up on
making it work on your average person's computer. I would love to fly it, but something about the game studering long enough for me to
go get a refill on my coffee just doesn't make it realistic.

OK, I'm not here to argue I will be purchasing FSXP when it is released but I have a few things to say and I can say these things as I'm in the
software development side of business too - I know how it works.

All programs be it .Net, C, VB, PHP etc take a long time to programme thats just how it is. Now it doesn't matter if microsoft gave fsx free or not to
existing clients. There supply system does not work the same as it does for online software developers. Regardless, for some of us this is our only
income and for
some it is not, the product developer can say whether or not they will charge you for it and thats the end of the discussion but to then say "my
family needs to eat it too" is pointless and is away from the point. Whether or not your the only person working, or making income. Furthermore, many
developers charge for
updates and some don't. But making it personal should not come into it and by law your supposed to have terms and conditions/terms of sale stating
things like pricing if any in regards to possible updates/new versions as it directly affects the consumer.
The law can not be that much different in your country.

Dan also mentions he had to purchase a dual core system, probably had to add more ram and maybe even had to change the mother board or graphics card.
But you do not have to have the best system, I was running a single core machine with 1 gig ram and 6 series nvidia card and still could push decent
framerates, with high settings.
So a dualcore system was not needed, thats just an excuse or personal gain and didn't need to be mentioned either. Spend your money on what you like
its your hard earned money but did you not also mention you had a family to support??

Before dan developed fspassengers he had to have income in the first place, phone bill + internet bill + fs2004 + food + electric etc.

And if Dan was strapped for cash then he could have released smaller updates and charged for them, or could have had FSXP out a long time ago.
I doubt very much this is dan's only job but that is my opinion. I'm not gullible like the majority of people who believe a talking horse!

[Canada_Boy]

saint4 wrote:
...but then to say"my family needs to eat it too" is pointless and is away from the point...

....making it personal should not come into it....

What, isn't it a good thing he cares about his family?
.....It isn't really personal, it is more of a phrase.

So a dual core system was not needed, thats just an excuse or personal gain and didn't need to be mentioned either. Spend your money on what you like
its your hard earned money but did you not also mention you had a family to support??

You really shouldn't care what he spends his money on, last I checked it was his life not yours .

This is exactly like saying " Why does Dan need a Lamborghini when all he does is race other cars, he should stick with his "Mr.Been" Mini-Cooper!!


This is FSX he is talking about, you should defiantly have a Core 2 Duo or better if you plan to run it decently.
Why would he not want to run it decently to test software, instead of slow painful stutters, and 5fps ?

[saint4]

I don't that is why I said "Spend your money on what you like its your hard earned money".

€31 can not pay for food, electric, rent, internet bill, gas, phone bill, clothing etc. - Bare in mind some things need to pay monthly or fortnightly.

The debate is you do not need a high end system to run fsx. And by your statement if thats the case then why moan about his family not eating if he is
spending on computer components.

Do you not understand where I'm coming from.

In both scenarios, I'm on no one's side just making arguements for both cases.

Well my previous system (amd 3500+ single core, 1GB ram and 256mb 6600/6200 agp nvidia card) gave 15-20fps with ultra high aircraft, high scenery
without autogen and every else high and I coped and still have some beautiful screenshots and no stuttered flights.
Now I have a dualcore system and more ram and a better card, but that money was saved and my family eat and the bills are paid.

You don't say my family needs this and that and then go spend the cash on something you want.

If your not going to read a reply fully then you shouldn't reply to the post.

[beluga3003]

Dan, are there again pieces of news???

[Canada_Boy]

saint4 wrote:
€31 can not pay for food, electric, rent, internet bill, gas, phone bill, clothing etc. - Bare in mind some things need to pay monthly or fortnightly.

If Dan sells 1000 copies a year at €31.90 a piece, that is €31,900. 70 copies a month would = € 2233
Which in Canada anyway is enough to pay for: rent, electric, internet, phone, cable, gas, food, and other smallish expenditures which you may want.
You couldn't live to extravagantly, but you could easily get by.

Keep in mind FSpassengers is always on the "Best sellers this week" list on simMarket , and 3rd place in the "All time sellers" list.

That isn't even including the people who purchase Fspassengers at this site (which is probably half of the people who buy FSP)....
I am sure Dan sells a ton of copies. Enough that he only needs FSP as a job.

I am not trying to "Argue" with you in anyway, I'm just saying what I think is possible, and what I believe.
Of coarse, you are entitled to your own opinion

[olseric]

Dan,

I haven't been around on the forum for awhile, so I can't tell you how pleased I was to see the wonderful progress that you're making on
the FSX Version of FS Passengers. It's definately a treat to see how your talents go to use on a day-to-day basis as the program comes
together little by little.

I have a small suggestion that maybe you would entertain...seeing as the databases are going to be compatible, what could be done to
the put database in a common location (e.g. C:\Documents and Settings\<Current User>\Application Data\FS Passengers) so that a
common database between the two programs could be used? This certainly would be nice for people who still plan on flying both sims
utilitzing your masterpiece.

At any rate, it is just a random thought that I had. I hope that your health is back to 100% and that all is well with you and your family.

Best regards,

[saint4]

Canada_Boy wrote:

saint4 wrote:
€31 can not pay for food, electric, rent, internet bill, gas, phone bill, clothing etc. - Bare in mind some things need to pay monthly or fortnightly.

If Dan sells 1000 copies a year at €31.90 a piece, that is €31,900. 70 copies a month would = € 2233
Which in Canada anyway is enough to pay for: rent, electric, internet, phone, cable, gas, food, and other smallish expenditures which you may want.
You couldn't live to extravagantly, but you could easily get by.

Keep in mind FSpassengers is always on the &quot;Best sellers this week&quot; list on simMarket , and 3rd place in the &quot;All time sellers&quot; list.

That isn't even including the people who purchase Fspassengers at this site (which is probably half of the people who buy FSP)....
I am sure Dan sells a ton of copies. Enough that he only needs FSP as a job.

I am not trying to &quot;Argue&quot; with you in anyway, I'm just saying what I think is possible, and what I believe.
Of coarse, you are entitled to your own opinion

Ye well, here's hoping FSXP is released before the end of the year.

[crowebird]

Just curious if there are any new screenshots our eyes could drool over? :P

[Nicolas95]

Help in French, please ...

Bonjour à tous,

N'étant pas completely bilingue, je crainds de n'avoir pas parfaitement saisi tous les détails de ce post. Si une âme charitable voulais
bien me faire un petit résumé en français , je lui en serais oh! combien reconnaissant !

[DBE]

Salut Nicolas!

Tres simplement: si tu es une de ces personnes qui a migré sur FSX et qui n'attend plus que FsPassengers X pour complèter son plaisir, sache que le
development est officiellement en route.

Néanmoins ce n'est pas une mince affaire: alors que FsP pour FS9 était pratiquement impossible a réaliser, dû à des changements majeurs dans le code
de FSX, l'impossible doit être pratiquement réalisé une seconde fois.

[Nicolas95]

Cela me rassure ! mon anglais n'est pas si mauvais que ça : c'est bien ce que j'avais compris !
Mille mercis DBE pour cette réponse rapide.
Il ne me reste plus qu'à m'armer de patience...

2 ou 3 autres précisions, peut être :
- j'ai bien compris qu'il n'y a pas de date prévisionnelle de sortie (encore trop tôt pour ça).
- Y a t-il des nouveautés par rapport à la version fs9 ?
- Ce sera bien un "nouvelle" add-on complet, et non pas un patch de compatibilité de la version fs9 de FSP pour fsX ?


Bon courage à tous ceux qui bossent sur cette nouvelle version de fsp; sans votre travail, flight sim semble un peu fadasse !