Why are the ticket income the same?.

[Mole]

Why are the ticket income the same?.
Flight Distance:
Ticket Income: +2,461,982Kr. (3'225 km)
Ticket Income: +2,461,982Kr. (2'635 km)

I tought i became more income, when i make longer flights.
Mole



Post Edited ( 01-28-06 17:07 )

[Dutch64]

I thought there was a certain maximum to the income. I still don't know however how exactly the income is calculated. See also this thread about it
http://www.fspassengers.com/forum/showth...p?tid=1322

[Covoxer]

Can you show your full flight reports, please?

[Sovek]

The distance where you stop getting income is somewhere around 1,300 NM, at a certain point you stop getting money per mile, thus the longer the
flight, the less money your gonna make because of fuel costs.

[Mole]

Flight OEM386 flight report log Date 28 January 2006

Flight ID: OEM386
Pilot: Ole Eivind Moen
Company: Hukedalen`s Flyselskap
Aircraft: Boeing 747-400
Flight Date: 28 January 2006
Departure: 05h11 (03h12 GMT)
Arrival: 07h07 (06h08 GMT)
From: ENGM - Oslo Gardermoen - Norway
To: LGAV
Nbr of Passengers: 397

Report:

Flight Distance: 2'635 km Landing Speed: 340.77 Km/h
Time Airborne: 02h54:45 Landing Touchdown: -83.1 ft/m (kiss)
Flight Time (block): 02h55:49 Landing Pitch: 6.43°
Time On Ground: 00h01:26 Landing Weight: 311998 kg
Average Speed: 904.81 Km/h Total Fuel Used: 66565 lit.
Max. Altitude: FL 340 Fuel Not Used: 111091 lit.
Climb Time: 00h28:11 Climb Fuel Used: 13180 lit.
Cruise Time: 01h58:51 Cruise Fuel Used: 48201 lit.
Average Cruise Speed: 1034.70 Km/h (M0.89) Cruise fuel/hour: 24333 lit. (calc)
Descent Time: 00h27:43 Descent Fuel Used: 5184 lit.


Passenger Opinion: Exceptional flight (100%)
-Are pleased to have landed right on schedule.
-Were highly entertained by the movie.
-Were in a better mood because they had food.
-Were pleased by the music on ground. A very nice addition to their flying experience.

Financial Report:

Ticket Income: +2,461,982Kr. (2'635 km)
Cargo Income: +635,438Kr. (13608 kg)
Services Income: +55,622Kr. (1 sandwich 3 hot food 4 drink)
Services Cost: -104,205Kr. (100% quality)
Fuel Cost: -347,839Kr. (66565 lit. Jet-A1)
Airport Taxes: -6,816Kr. (Heavy Aircraft)
Insurance Costs: -1,905,266Kr. (57.19% rate)
Total Real Income: 788,926Kr.
Total Income: 39,446,315Kr. (real x50)
Fleet Bonus: 2,096,880Kr. (4 aircraft)
Total Sim Income: 41,543,196Kr. (total income+fleet bonus)

Company Reputation:

Considering that the flight was perfect the ticket price good, the service price normal and the service quality perfect, passengers on this
flight think that your company's reputation should be 100%
Your company reputation is now: 99% (+0.03 increase)


Overall Flight Result: Perfect

Pilot Bonus points: 475 points
You made a very smooth landing. (+50)
Perfect Flight, no problems and very satisfied passengers. (+150)
You landed at the scheduled airport. (+30)
Precise arrival time at destination.(00h04:11 difference) (+100)
Long flight (02h54) without using time acceleration, without any problems and with satisfied passengers. (+145)



Flight OEM005 flight report log Date 28 January 2006

Flight ID: OEM005
Pilot: Ole Eivind Moen
Company: Hukedalen`s Flyselskap
Aircraft: Boeing 747-400
Flight Date: 28 January 2006
Departure: 15h14 (13h14 GMT)
Arrival: 19h04 (17h04 GMT)
From: ENGM - Oslo Gardermoen - Norway
To: LCPH - Paphos Intl - Cyprus
Nbr of Passengers: 397

Report:

Flight Distance: 3'225 km Landing Speed: 427.81 Km/h
Time Airborne: 03h49:36 Landing Touchdown: -171.54 ft/m (nice)
Flight Time (block): 03h50:39 Landing Pitch: 2.19°
Time On Ground: 00h04:17 Landing Weight: 283522 kg
Average Speed: 842.88 Km/h Total Fuel Used: 78583 lit.
Max. Altitude: FL 360 Fuel Not Used: 75166 lit.
Climb Time: 00h25:54 Climb Fuel Used: 13092 lit.
Cruise Time: 02h45:54 Cruise Fuel Used: 56500 lit.
Average Cruise Speed: 1023.25 Km/h (M0.89) Cruise fuel/hour: 20433 lit. (calc)
Descent Time: 00h37:48 Descent Fuel Used: 8991 lit.


Passenger Opinion: Exceptional flight (100%)
-Are pleased to have landed right on schedule.
-Were highly entertained by the movie.
-Were in a better mood because they had food.
-Were pleased by the music on ground. A very nice addition to their flying experience.

Financial Report:

Ticket Income: +2,461,982Kr. (3'225 km)
Cargo Income: +635,438Kr. (13608 kg)
Services Income: +58,627Kr. (2 sandwich 3 hot food 4 drink)
Services Cost: -109,822Kr. (100% quality)
Fuel Cost: -409,110Kr. (78583 lit. Jet-A1)
Airport Taxes: -5,206Kr. (Heavy Aircraft)
Insurance Costs: -2,336,008Kr. (57.29% rate)
Total Real Income: 295,908Kr.
Total Income: 14,795,425Kr. (real x50)
Fleet Bonus: 786,493Kr. (4 aircraft)
Total Sim Income: 15,581,918Kr. (total income+fleet bonus)

Company Reputation:

Considering that the flight was perfect the ticket price good, the service price normal and the service quality perfect, passengers on this
flight think that your company's reputation should be 100%
Your company reputation is now: 99% (+0.03 increase)


Overall Flight Result: Perfect

Pilot Bonus points: 521 points
· You made a very nice landing. (+50)
· Perfect Flight, no problems and very satisfied passengers. (+150)
· You landed at the scheduled airport. (+30)
· Precise arrival time at destination.(-00h00:40 difference) (+100)
· Long flight (03h49) without using time acceleration, without any problems and with satisfied passengers. (+191)

[Air France]

It happens to me all the time, I dont know why it does that.

[DanSteph]

The scale for income is logaritmique but stop after a while.
this to avoid that you get unrealistic tickets price.
Nobody would pay $US12'000 even for a long trip...

Dan

[Mole]

So that is the reason that my income is below 0 when i make a flight from Europe to America. How can i earn moeny when i make a long
flight?

Mole

[WBHoenig]

It depends on the airplane, I think.

[Drew]

Mole wrote:
So that is the reason that my income is below 0 when i make a flight from Europe to America. How can i earn moeny when i make a long
flight?

Mole

charge more for food and drink????

[DanSteph]

Mole wrote:
So that is the reason that my income is below 0 when i make a flight from Europe to America. How can i earn moeny when i make a long
flight?
Mole

???

Loading passengers at least, set higher ticket price, fly economical. (don't wast fuel)

Dan



Post Edited ( 01-31-06 00:33 )

[MobilePCPilot]

I find the best way to make money on very long trips is to operate the aircraft and engines for best range settings. This makes for a slow
trip but you use the least amount of fuel. And with the price of fuel and the 50x multiplier you can make more money.

Infact I always use max range settings even with the short trips.

And another tidbit of info. The most to least fuel efficent aircraft per seat per mile is

Single engine piston prop
Twin engine piston prop
Single engine turbin prop
Twin engine turbin prop
Twin engine jet
Tri engine jet
Four engine jet

I think the best of all money maker per seat per mile is the old DC-3.

My favorat aircraft going up the ranks is

Cessna 206
DC-3
Pilatus PC-12
ATR-72-500

-Todd Giencke

[SaVas]

Think of the money you get as a bell curve


As you take flight the further you go to a point you make more money, but as you reach the max distance for earning money per
passenger, it begins to slide down because then you are using more fuel to get passengers a further distance. On the flip side of this,
where you are earning less money for each passenger, you are increasing the number of points your pilot gets so you have to make a
choice...make more points (if you are not using time acceleration) or earn more money.