Help: Looking for load model for PMDG 777

[X_Man]

Does any know of a good one?

[Smilencio]

I would rather edit the stock payload model by myself with the attached tool than waiting....

Of course I disabled the "payload weight and fuel update", so the only concern is the CG when editting.

[Joeflyer]

X_Man wrote:
Does any know of a good one?

I am currently using the first 2 payload models that are listed in the More Downloads section (search: 777)....first one is United and the second one
is FedEx. I force those payload models in the FsP set up. Both work very well.

[X_Man]

I saw those Joeflyer and I was wondering how accurate the CG would be since the PMDG 777-200LR referenced model maybe different:

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE] // ** DO NOT EDIT **
reference_datum_position = 0.00, 0, 0.0 // REF: Model 87.8ft to nose
empty_weight_CG_position = -6.10, 0, 1.29 // Boeing WBM 1053+92.5in BA

empty_weight = 344224.0 // Basic operating (line)
max_gross_weight = 768000.0 // Max taxi weight
max_takeoff_weight = 766000.0
max_zerofuel_weight = 461000.0
max_landing_weight = 492000.0

max_number_of_stations = 50

// Weight && Balance Manual 2/3 Class
station_load.0 = 1950.0, 49.77, 0.0, 4.9
station_name.0 = "First Class"
station_load.1 = 6435.0, -0.32, 0.0, 4.9
station_name.1 = "Business Class"
station_load.2 = 22815.0, -50.8, 0.0, 4.9
station_name.2 = "Economy Class"
station_load.3 = 17900.0, 36.88, 0.0, -2.1
station_name.3 = "For Cargo"
station_load.4 = 12400.0, -42.95, 0.0, -2.1
station_name.4 = "Aft Cargo"
station_load.5 = 2290.0, -63.25, 0.0, -2.1
station_name.5 = "Bulk Cargo"

If Delta airline has a configuration of:

BusinessElite: 45
Economy Conform: 36
Economy: 188

What numbers should I use for FS Passengers to calculate PZ and PY positions for both passengers and cargo

[Smilencio]

In fact there is no need to think that much....

(Well I am a lazy man and this is partly why I disabled the "payload weight and fuel update", but I think it's better to leave it disabled, both for
addon planes or stock planes)

You can simply set the fuel and payload accurately in FMC's FS ACTIONS before starting a FsP flight and then set the same
passengers&cargo value in the boarding page (if you are honest enough). Since the payload weight and fuel update is disabled, the value
you set has actually no effect upon the plane's anything, like take-off weight or CG or something. The plane's property has been fixed before
starting a FsP flight, and the load-model-file is only something that tells FsP how many passengers&cargo you are carrying. I think this is the
most reliable way because it's not easy to make the load model file 100% suitable for such an accurately simulated plane.

(Oh of course if you want more profit you can set the payload empty in FMC and drag anything to maximum in the FsP boarding page, boss
will not know ;-) )

Then come to PZ and PY... Since the payload weight and fuel update is disabled, so PZ or PY or something is not that important. There is an
"Estimate CG" button in the tool. Just make sure the estimated CG is good. Zero is the best, and ±5 is not bad too.

[Joeflyer]

All I do is set fuel in the FMC, set payload to empty in FMC and load paxs/cargo via FsP.. Simple as that. I've not had any issues with whacky ZFW or
CG, and my company makes a great deal of $$ on each flight...more so with cargo only.

[X_Man]

"...set payload to empty in FMC and load paxs/cargo via FsP." Well the issue here is FsP doesn't edit the PDMG aircraft.cfg so loading pax/cargo
in FsP doesn't do anything. The idea if to duplicate what you do in FSX into FsP.

[X_Man]

Thanks Smilencio - I will just edit the stock load model and call it a day using :

BusinessElite: 45
Economy Conform: 36
Economy: 188

[Joeflyer]

X_Man wrote:
"...set payload to empty in FMC and load paxs/cargo via FsP." Well the issue here is FsP doesn't edit the PDMG aircraft.cfg so loading pax/cargo
in FsP doesn't do anything. The idea if to duplicate what you do in FSX into FsP.

What do you mean "it doesn't do anything"? Care to explain in more detail?