DC3 Payload error

[Stentor]

Been using the DC 3 for a couple of flights and found that it was nearly impossible to lane, the trim was at full deflection upwards and still
the nose was dropping with full flaps at 100 knots!

So When I unload the PAX I check the weight dist, low and behold, I and the co-pilot are a couple of fat bastards to terrify any group of PAX,
he weighs 931 lbs I weigh 850!! No wonder the bloody tail shot up in the air when I braked, it must have shot all the pax out of their seats
too because I pulled back on the stick real hard and let go the brake, WHAM the tail came down and from the result I can only conclude that
PAX, attendants and the two enormous blobs of flesh at the front had all shot back to the tail, how else do explain the fact that the tail sank
8 feet below the runway?



On a more serious note, this needs fixing somehow, it is loading pax into the cockpit and leaving all the rearmost stations empty, there
seems to be options in the load editor for only 4 stations, do these correspond to the first stations in the aircraft.cfg? When I checked the
load in fs9 (after aborting the flight) I noticed that the rear of the plane had no load, it was all up front, so it is very unstable despit what the
CofG needle might say. I emptied the plane and put in some realistic weights and it flew fine.

Whats the solution?



Post Edited ( 02-10-06 15:16 )

[SaVas]

I have found issue occasionally with other aircraft having bad nose down problems even with trim with nose all the way up.

Chances are the aircraft.cfg might be off the CoG.

If your payload.ini for the DC3 only has 1 station, its easy enough to create it with more than one. Then if you have created say 4 stations
and it still has nose down problems, then move the stations back a little bit at a time and do test flights (using a test airline if you have all
flights recorded)

I did this with the Aerosoft D18 cargo version and now it flies like a dream

[Stentor]

Well I already have four stations activated as well as two cargo stations, it seems that is the max.

FSP uses the first 6 stations in the aircraft config for these six slots

Perhaps it should bypass station 0 and 1 (pilot and co-pilot) and start loading from there back, certainly the C of G was drastically changed
in the DC3.

Or maybe more stations could be made available so that you can position the load more accurately, it is very difficult to see the true result
when you cannot access the FS load screen while a flight is running, you have to abort the flight everytime to check the load in FS.
Seems to need a tweak or two.

You're right of course SaVas, I could just move the positions backward, but it seems a fiddly way.

[SaVas]

Fiddly maybe however the original cog of the aircraft could have been off kilter initially.

Oh and as for the tail sinking, there is a possibility that there was tail wheel damage that caused this. ive had it happen a couple of times
in the D18, but not sure if it registers with FsP.

[Stentor]

Well I tried moving them back but it was no better, plane was still way out of kilter even though the load editor said it was OK, I still had
great lumps in the front seats.

[SaVas]

Are you using the payload model for the default DC-3 or the MAAM sim DC3?

Just trying to figure out where the issue lies

[Wardak]

I sometimes have problems with the default DC-3's tailwheel sinking with or without FsPassengers running at certain airports.



Post Edited ( 02-10-06 21:44 )

[jboweruk]

Look around on the More Downloads section. As there are some very excellent DC3 Payload models there.

[Stentor]

Is it the payload models though? Is it not rather the way FSP is placing the load, i.e using putting several passengers into the pilots seat.
I don't think a different payload model will do it, it might of course, but I somehow doubt it. I will try however.

[jboweruk]

If it's a good payload model it will be fine. I'm using a payload model from here and it works beaut for me.