FSP and the Classics

[Leftcoaster]

Bought FsPassengers several weeks ago and think that it is great. No significant complaints but one observation. I mostly fly classic or
vintage propliners and FsPassengers is pretty unforgiving when old planes are involved. For example I started an airline, initial flight
dated in August 1934 and bought a Boeing 247D, which was a wreck and had something like 22,000 hours on it because as far as FSP
was concerned, airline was founded was in 2005! (But the plane looked brand new!!) Turned off all of the economic options and deleted
that airline but regularly get tagged for not using flaps (because a 247D or Fokker VII doesn't have them), rough landings (sometimes the
water is choppy when the Short Empire flying boat touches down) or spending too much time on the ground before takeoff (running up
the engines on a DC-6B takes a while to do correctly). So I stuff the virtual passengers full of food and drink for a seven hour flight across
the prairies and they stay reasonably happy. The only question that I have is... in what year did airlines start showing in flight movies?
Keep up the great work.
Cheers

[pagir]

Hmmmm... Did you change the date of FS2004 to 1934? You should be able to get a brand new 247D in 1934.

Don't forget to set the "date setting" of the "General" option of FsP setup and select "Use FS date"

Please come back to report the result!!!

Pagir

[DBE]

And to answer your other question: although Lufthansa was the first airline to ever show a movie in flight (1925), it wasn't until 1961 that
TWA first established in-flight movies as a regular service.

[nem]

DBE wrote:
And to answer your other question: although Lufthansa was the first airline to ever show a movie in flight (1925)

Uh huh. Now how did they do that when the "Deutsche Luft Hansa AG" (notice the different spelling) was only founded in January 1926 when "Deutsche
Aero Lloyd" and "Junkers Luftverkehr" merged? Time travel?

[pagir]

nem wrote:

DBE wrote:
And to answer your other question: although Lufthansa was the first airline to ever show a movie in flight (1925)

Uh huh. Now how did they do that when the "Deutsche Luft Hansa AG" (notice the different spelling) was only founded in
January 1926 when "Deutsche
Aero Lloyd" and "Junkers Luftverkehr" merged? Time travel?

Let's continue. The World Airline Entertainment Association wrote on their web site:

1921 - First Inflight Movie - Aeromarine Airways showed HOWDY CHICAGO to its passengers as the amphibian airplane flew around
Chicago

http://www.waea.org/ife.htm

But they agree with DBE about TWA in 1961.

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The Digital History web site wrote:

1925 The first inflight movie, a black & white, silent film called The Lost World, is shown in a WWI converted Handley-Page
bomber during a 30-minute flight near London.

http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/history..._chron.cfm





Pagir

[SaVas]

I took a similar diraction however Im in real time 2005 and starting a new airline that has little money except to purchase old vintage
aircraft.

It will be a while before I have something like a 727, 737, or 747 in my fleet *grins*

[DBE]

And guess who my source was: the FAA itself!

[pagir]

DBE wrote:
And guess who my source was: the FAA itself!

I'm really not surprised: who invented cinema? Les frères Lumières or Edison? Who flyied first: Clement Ader or the Wright brothers?
Who "dicovered" the AIDS virus? Montagnier or Gallo? So...

Pagir

[dreamnite]

I would like to ask that the flap penalty be made optional, if possible (I haven't explored more_options for it yet, and am not able to currently)
since I also like to fly classic aircraft, some of which does not have flaps available.

Also, as leftcoaster mentioned about the water landings, has anyone else had trouble with crashing after a sucessful water landing? I've had FSP
generate a *crash* after being fully touched down in the water (It reported an impact with the ground at 0 ft/sec). I'm pretty sure it was FSP
generated, as I have the "crash detection" setting in fs2004 disabled since it seems to do strange things in certain situations.

[pagir]

Dreamnite, you'll be happy to know: in the next update (coming within 48 hours), you won't have any penalty about flaps if they are not
available on your plane.

Pagir

[DanSteph]

Just added a grayed menu if you're below 1961:

"Play movies (not available before 1961)"

Also hostess will anounce "Sorry we can't do that YET" (funny because if you're in 1930 you have to wait 30 years)

Dan



Post Edited ( 09-02-05 17:20 )

[pagir]

8o

Pagir

[Leftcoaster]

Thanks for all of the responses. Have started planning a 1938 Berlin-New York non-stop trip in Hauke Keitel's very detailed Focke Wolfe
200 Condor in real time with sun compass and DR navigation, and thought that movies might make the 18+ hour flight pass a bit faster
for the twenty or so passengers. Supposedly Luftansa did a trial run but was refused route certification by the US.
Although I am sure that I did everything correctly with regard to FS9 dates when I got the 22,000 hour Boeing, I tried again last night and
got a spanking new 10 hour old 247D. Flew it from Victoria BC to Seattle WA and didn't even mind the no flaps penalty. No flight
attendent though, the 247D only carries 10 pax. Is there a fix so that small capacity planes can carry F/A's?
Cheers

[Sovek]

question, If you start in say 1936, can you move your company into the future, if so, how?

[pagir]

Change the FS2004 date!

Pagir