POSKY 747-312

[bezmond]

Hi guy's,
I've got the POSKY 747-312 installed, but am having problems using it with FSP...

When first using it with FSP, the program said:

Problem:
The author of this aircraft seems to have forgotten the standard payload points that all FS aircraft must have.


So, I clicked the correct button.
I restarted the aircraft as it say's, but it still didn't work, so I reset FS...

still, it doesn't work, it just asks me to correct the problem. I've checked the config, and the points are there (copied below).
Any ideas??

Regards,
Andy


station_load.0 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.1 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.2 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.3 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.4 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.5 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.6 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"

[SaVas]

How did it not work?

What is it telling you when you try to restart it (not the stations in the cfg file but when actually trying to fly with it and FSP)?

[bezmond]

I can fly with the aircraft fine, but as soon as I try and fly with FSP, it tells me the same problem as above... Despite restarting FS and my
computer...

Andy

[SaVas]

The pax and cargo load screen doesnt come up at all? I dont tend to fly Posky's aircraft much as while good looking aircraft, their
aircraft.cfgs tend to be a bit eccentric.

[bezmond]

no, it doesn't come up...

I'm gonna try searching for an updated cfg file, but don't know if that'll bring me any luck..

I wanna fly this 312 because of the paint job it has (it's a specific Real World airline)

Andy

[olseric]

Make sure you have the updates to the POS models.

Chances are, if the payload points were missing, you still have the old FS2002 versions. They have released updates for all of them to
make them FS2004 compatible with payload points, etc.

[omarza]

Can you post the aircrafts CFG file. Im sure we will then be able to tell you what to change to make it work.

[bezmond]

I'll check I have the latest files tomorrow after work, but I thought I already had them...

After I've re-tested it like that, I'll copy you the CFG file on here.

Andy

[DanSteph]

Yes the CFG file may be usefull... we had the case of some "uggly" aircraft.cfg
were the station were not taken in account as all was up side down...

Thanks

Dan

[bezmond]

OK, this is a copy of aircraft.cfg after FSP has edited it...

[fltsim.0]
title=Project Opensky - Boeing 747-300 Travel City
sim=747-300PW
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=travelcity
checklists=

atc_id=TF-AME
atc_airline=travel city
atc_flight_number=140

ui_manufacturer=Project Opensky
ui_type=747-312
ui_variation=Travel City Direct
visual_damage=1
description=Project Opensky \nBoeing 747-300\nVersion 2002.5.3.3\n\nEngine Type PW JT9D-7R4G2\n\n747-300 Commercial Version
\n\nModel Designer\n Vincent Cho\n\nFlight Dynamics Designers\n Warren C. Daniel\n Nick Peterson\n\nTechnical Resource\n
Simon Ng\n Shigeo Kitaguchi\n\nTest Pilots\n Project Opensky Members\n\nMaximun Range: 5,650 nm\n\nTypical city pairs: \n Tokyo-
Sydney\n Bangkok-Paris\n Zurich-Johannesburg\n

[flight_tuning]
cruise_lift_scalar = 1.0
parasite_drag_scalar = 1.0
induced_drag_scalar = 1.0
elevator_effectiveness = 1.0
aileron_effectiveness = 1.0
rudder_effectiveness = 1.0
pitch_stability = 1.0
roll_stability = 1.0
yaw_stability = 1.0
elevator_trim_effectiveness = 1.4
aileron_trim_effectiveness = 1.0
rudder_trim_effectiveness = 1.0

[forcefeedback]
gear_bump_nose_magnitude=3000 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_nose_direction=18000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_nose_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
gear_bump_left_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_left_direction=35500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_left_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
gear_bump_right_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_right_direction=00500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_right_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
ground_bumps_magnitude1=1300 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle1=08900 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept1=3.0
ground_bumps_slope1=0.20
ground_bumps_magnitude2=200 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle2=09100 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept2=1.075
ground_bumps_slope2=0.035
crash_magnitude1=10000 ; 0 - 10000
crash_direction1=01000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
crash_magnitude2=10000 ; 0 - 10000
crash_direction2=9000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
crash_period2=75000 ; in microseconds
crash_duration2=2500000 ; in microseconds

[pitot_static]

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
reference_datum_position= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
empty_weight_CG_position= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
max_number_of_stations = 50
empty_weight=454850 // Aircraft Weight = Base Weight + PAX + Cargo
empty_weight_roll_MOI= 13155743.000
empty_weight_pitch_MOI= 22600873.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI= 25151035.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI= 1000.000
max_gross_weight=753000
CG_forward_limit= 0.000
CG_aft_limit= 1.000
station_load.0=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000

[fuel]
Center1 =0.000, 0.0, -4.0, 19431.0, 3.0
LeftMain =-5.0, -35.0, -4.0, 16660.0, 3.0
LeftAux =-11.5, -52.0, -3.0, 500.0, 3.0
RightMain =-5.0, 35.0, -4.0, 16660.0, 3.0
RightAux =-11.5, 52.0, -3.0, 500.0, 3.0
fuel_type = 2
number_of_tank_selectors = 1
electric_pump=1

[airplane_geometry]
wing_area= 5500.000
wing_span= 196.000
wing_root_chord= 23.000
wing_dihedral= 6.998
wing_incidence= 2.000
wing_twist= -0.994
oswald_efficiency_factor= 0.830
wing_winglets_flag= 0
wing_sweep= 37.500
wing_pos_apex_lon= 0.000
wing_pos_apex_vert= 0.000
htail_area= 1470.000
htail_span= 72.750
htail_pos_lon= -17.167
htail_pos_vert= 0.000
htail_incidence= -4.000
htail_sweep= 37.500
vtail_area= 1060.000
vtail_span= 37.121
vtail_sweep= 45.000
vtail_pos_lon= -16.500
vtail_pos_vert= 6.083
elevator_area= 326.800
aileron_area= 225.200
rudder_area= 229.900
elevator_up_limit= 20.751
elevator_down_limit= 15.313
aileron_up_limit= 31.513
aileron_down_limit= 31.513
rudder_limit= 17.189
elevator_trim_limit= 19.167
spoiler_limit= 25.783
spoilerons_available= 0
aileron_to_spoileron_gain= 3.000
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons= 11.459
min_flaps_for_spoilerons= 0.000

[contact_points]

point.0= 1.000, 67.333, 0.00, -13.703, 1181.102, 0.000, 2.000, 70.000, .700, .610, 0.518, 9.000, 11.000, 0.000, 240.000, 280.000
point.1= 1.000, -5.183, -16.000, -15.533, 1574.803, 1.000, 2.000, 0.000, 2.52, 1.00, 0.651, 12.900, 14.900, 2.000, 240.000, 280.000
point.2= 1.000, -5.183, 16.000, -15.533, 1574.803, 2.000, 2.000, 0.000, 2.52, 1.00, 0.651, 15.100, 16.400, 3.000, 240.000, 280.000
point.3= 1.000, -16.583, -6.000, -15.533, 1574.803, 0.000, 2.000, 13.000, 2.52, 1.00, 0.651, 13.400, 14.900, 2.000, 240.000, 280.000
point.4= 1.000, -16.583, 6.000, -15.533, 1574.803, 0.000, 2.000, 13.000, 2.52, 1.00, 0.651, 11.500,
point.5= 2.000, -14.167, -96.167, 0.000, 787.402, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.6= 2.000, -14.167, 96.167, 0.000, 787.402, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.7= 2.000, -132.667, 0.000, 2.500, 787.402, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.8= 2.000, 88.167, 0.000, -3.750, 787.402, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.9= 2.000, -14.167, -96.167, 0.000, 787.402, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 7.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.10= 2.000, -132.667, 0.000, 55.500, 787.402, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 8.000, 0.000, 0.000

static_pitch= -.300
static_cg_height= 13.625
gear_system_type=0

[SMOKESYSTEM]
smoke.0=7, -44.967, -69.467, fx_posky743_vortex.fx
smoke.1=7, -44.967, 69.467, fx_posky743_vortex.fx

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type=1
Engine.0=-14.916667,-69.500000,0.000000
Engine.1=14.916667,-39.166667,-7.000000
Engine.2=14.916667,39.166667,-7.000000
Engine.3=-14.916667,69.500000,0.000000
fuel_flow_scalar= 1.09
min_throttle_limit=-0.379944

[TurbineEngineData]
bypass_ratio=4.970000
fuel_flow_gain=0.00200
inlet_area=37.5000
rated_N2_rpm=26928.000000
static_thrust=54750.000000
afterburner_available=0
reverser_available=1

[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed= 150.000
full_flaps_stall_speed= 126.000
cruise_speed= 524.337
max_indicated_speed=350.000000
max_mach=0.900000

[keyboard_response]
elevator= 100.000, 200.000
aileron= 100.000, 200.000
rudder= 150.000, 250.000

[Views]
eyepoint=83.000, -2.000, 14.800

[General]
performance=Passengers\n3-class conf: 366 \n2-class conf: 452 \n1-class conf: N\/A\n\nCargo\nTotal lower hold volume:\n 5,497 ft3
(155.6 m3) \n\nDimensions\nSpan 195 ft 8 in\nLength 231 ft 10 in\nHeight 63 ft 5 in\n\nEngines: PW JT9D-7R4G2\nTO Thrust: 54,750 lb
x 4\n\nMax Fuel Cap.: 52,410 US Gal.\nMaxTOW: 833,000 lbs\nMLW: 630,000 lbs\nZFW: 460,340 lbs\nOEW: 388,010 lbs\n\nMax Range:
5,650 nm\nTypical Cruise Speed \n @ FL350: M.84

atc_type=BOEING AIRCRAFT
atc_model=B743
editable=0

[autopilot]
autopilot_available=1
flight_director_available=1
default_vertical_speed=800.000000
autothrottle_available=1
autothrottle_arming_required=1
autothrottle_takeoff_ga=1
autothrottle_max_rpm=105.000000
pitch_takeoff_ga=14.000000
use_no_default_pitch = 1
use_no_default_bank = 1
default_pitch_mode=0
default_bank_mode=0
max_pitch=10.000000
max_pitch_acceleration=1.000000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.500000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.000000
max_bank=25.000000
max_bank_acceleration=1.800000
max_bank_velocity=3.000000
max_throttle_rate=0.100000
nav_proportional_control=9.000000
nav_integrator_control=0.250000
nav_derivative_control=0.000000
nav_integrator_boundary=2.500000
nav_derivative_boundary=0.000000
gs_proportional_control=9.520000
gs_integrator_control=0.260000
gs_derivative_control=0.000000
gs_integrator_boundary=0.700000
gs_derivative_boundary=0.000000
yaw_damper_gain=0.000000


[flaps.0]
type = 1
span-outboard = 0.4
extending-time = 25
flaps-position.0 = 0
flaps-position.1 = 5
flaps-position.2 = 10
flaps-position.3 = 15
flaps-position.4 = 20
flaps-position.5 = 25
flaps-position.6 = 30
damaging-speed = 200
blowout-speed = 250
lift_scalar = 0.42
drag_scalar = .47
pitch_scalar= 0.9
system_type = 1

[flaps.1]
type = 1
span-outboard = 0.4
extending-time = 25
flaps-position.0 = 0
flaps-position.1 = 5
flaps-position.2 = 10
flaps-position.3 = 15
flaps-position.4 = 20
flaps-position.5 = 25
flaps-position.6 = 30
damaging-speed = 200
blowout-speed = 250
lift_scalar = 0.42
drag_scalar = .47
pitch_scalar= 0.9
system_type = 1

[flaps.2]
type = 2
span-outboard = 0.8
extending-time = 12
flaps-position.0 = 0
flaps-position.1 = 20.0
damaging-speed = 250
blowout-speed = 300
lift_scalar = 0.27
drag_scalar = .7
pitch_scalar= 0.1
system_type = 1

[EFFECTS]
wake=fx_wake
water=fx_spray
dirt=fx_tchdrt
concrete=fx_sparks
touchdown=fx_tchdwn, 1

[stored information]
cargo_config=auto
cargo_container_type=full
cargo1=0
cargo2=0
cargo3=0
cargo4=0
cargo5=0
cargo6=0
cargo7=0
cargo8=0
cargo9=0
cargo10=0
cargo11=0
cargo12=0
cargo13=0
cargo14=0
cargo15=0
cargo16=0
cargo17=0
cargo18=0
cargo19=0
cargo20=0
cargo21=0
cargo22=0
cargo23=0
cargo24=0
cargo25=0
cargo26=0
cargo27=0
cargo28=0
cargo29=0
cargo30=0
cargo_bulk=0
main_deck_cargo=0
main_deck_cargo_type=
per_pax_weight=60
forward_cargo=0
aft_cargo=0
total_passengers=312
pax_config=simple
pax_upper=0
pax1=0
pax2=0
pax3=0
pax4=0
pax5=0
pax6=0
aircraft_type=747-300
seating_type=Basic Mixed-Class
[default information]
empty_weight=453520
max_gross_weight=833000
Center1=0.000, 0.0, -4.0, 17153.0, 3.0
LeftMain=-5.0, -35.0, -4.0, 12538.0, 3.0
LeftAux=-11.5, -52.0, -3.0, 5761.0, 3.0
RightMain=-5.0, 35.0, -4.0, 12538.0, 3.0
RightAux=-11.5, 52.0, -3.0, 5761.0, 3.0
station_load.0 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.1 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.2 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.3 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.4 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.5 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.6 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"

[TailHook] // For opening cargo door.
tailhook_length=1 ;(feet)
tailhook_position = 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 ;(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum

[folding_wings] // For opening main deck cargo door.
wing_fold_system_type = 4 ;0=None
fold_rates = 0.05,0.05 ;Percent per second
cable_force_adjust = 1.0

[exits]
number_of_exits = 2
exit_rate.0 = 0.4
exit_rate.1 = 0.4

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing
light.0 = 1, 65.200, 0.600, 19.100, Opensky_beacon ,
light.1 = 1, 13.500, 0.000, -7.080, Opensky_beacon ,
light.2 = 2, -42.70, -95.200, 8.80, fx_strobeh ,
light.3 = 2, -42.70, 95.200, 8.80, fx_strobeh ,
light.4 = 3, -122.700, -0.250, 12.300, Opensky_nav_yellow ,
light.5 = 3, -122.700, 0.250, 12.300, Opensky_nav_yellow ,
light.6 = 2, -121.900, 0.000, 11.450, fx_strobeh ,
light.7 = 3, 84.850, 0.000, 14.850, fx_vclighth

[electrical]
// ;BusType, MaxAmpLoad, MinVoltage BusTypes:0=MainBus,1=AvionicsBus,2=BatteryBus,3=HotBatteryBus,4-
7=Generator/AlternatorBus(1-4)
flap_motor = 1, 0 , 1.0
gear_motor = 0, 5 , 17.0
avionics_bus = 0, 0 , 1.0
avionics = 1, 5 , 17.0
pitot_heat = 0, 0 , 1.0
additional_system = 0, 0 , 1.0
marker_beacon = 1, 2 , 17.0
gear_warning = 7, 0 , 99.0
gear_motor = 4, 0 , 1.0
fuel_pump = 0, 0 , 1.0
fuel_transfer_pump = 0, 0 , 1.0
starter1 = 0, 20, 17.0
starter2 = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_nav = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_beacon = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_landing = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_taxi = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_strobe = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_panel = 0, 7 , 99.0
light_recognition = 0, 0 , 1.0
light_wing = 0, 0 , 1.0
marker_beacon = 0, 0 , 1.0
standby_vacuum = 0, 0 , 1.0
auto_brakes = 0, 0 , 1.0
hydraulic_pump = 0, 0 , 1.0
propeller_device = 0, 0 , 1.0

[Radios]
// Radio Type = available, standby frequency, has glide slope
Audio.1 = 1
Com.1 = 1, 1
Com.2 = 1, 1
Nav.1 = 1, 1, 1
Nav.2 = 1, 1, 0
Adf.1 = 1
Transponder.1 = 1
Marker.1 = 1

[direction_indicators]
//1 Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro, 3=Electro-Mag Slaved Compass, 4=Slaved to another
//2 Indicator number of slaving indicator if Type = 4
direction_indicator.0=3,0
[aircraft.cfg id]
ProjectOpenSky=747-300 with Pratt & Whittney JT9D-7R4G2 Engines
model_version=747-300 FSDS Version
[brakes]
toe_brakes_scale=0.756859
parking_brake=1
[gear_warning_system]
gear_warning_available=0
pct_throttle_limit=0.099976
flap_limit_power=25.496622
flap_limit_idle=5.042029
[hydraulic_system]
electric_pumps=0
engine_map=1,1,1,1
normal_pressure=3000.000000
[stall_warning]
type=1
[attitude_indicators]
attitude_indicator.0=1
[turn_indicators]
turn_indicator.0=1,0

Andy

[olseric]

That is an FS2002 payload model.

http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=46102

Above is the link to the update.

[bezmond]

That's why then.... thanks muchly, didn't really think about that!

Andy