Just some questions

[Covoxer]

Good work highlander
It's definitely not cheating the way you did it!
Aspecially since you follow the real world data about weight, power and balance.

[burkino_026]

Wow, THIS IS FLYING man!

YOU did a great Job editing but not cheating. You upgraded your plane to a more efficient model and set all the variables. Isnt it good!

Come on, the spirit of Need for Speed Underground and Grand Turismo in FS but instead of making races and win money we earn it by carring passengers
and cargo!!!! WOO HOOO!

Come on then, like real airlines do, let's edit and customise our aircraft, it's more rewarding to fly an aircraft you editied and modified to your
taste. But be aware, only those ones who modify thei aircraft standing to real world logics, rules and data can success to real fun and admiration,
tose ones who just put 1 lbs empty weight, 1000 hp power and that kind of stuff wont get the same level of fun after a month of flying, they will get
bored after a couple of hrs!!!!


Good luck airmen!

[Permj]

#highlander
can you send me a copy of your aricraft.cfg here on the forums... because i cant get it to work :S

[burkino_026]

[highlander]

Yeah, I'll post her when I get home (am chained to my desk at the moment )

Couple of downsides - you may want to edit your panel to find a more suitable tachometer (RPM gauge) and speedometer, as the engine's normal operating
RPM and cruise speed both exceed the redline on the default gauges. If you know the limits of your engine, you should be able to tell easily enough
if the engine is malfunctioning (when using FSP).

[highlander]

Here ya go, folks!

Remember - copy your whole C182 folder into a new folder called C182-300. If you want to, you can alias the sounds and the panel back to the normal
C182 folder, just to save on disk space. Note the "ui_type" is different so that you can tell the difference when picking your aircraft from FS9's
aircraft selector, and the "title" line is different so that FSPassengers can tell the difference between a vanilla C182 and a C182-300.

If you replace the aircraft.cfg with what is below, you should find yourself with a C182 that is noticably more powerful. Before you fly this one,
fly your stock C182 for a trip or two, and make a note of the fuel burn. Repeat the same flights with the C182-300, and you should note the trips are
shorter and burn less fuel.
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[fltsim.0]
title=Cessna Skylane 182-300 Palm Springs Air
sim=Cessna182-300
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=psa
kb_checklists=Cessna182S_check
kb_reference=Cessna182S_ref
atc_id_color=0xff000000
atc_id=N11912
atc_airline=Palm Springs
atc_flight_number=119
atc_parking_types=RAMP
ui_manufacturer=Cessna
ui_type="C182-300 Skylane"
ui_variation="Palm Springs Air"
description="When Cessna saw how well their Model 180 was selling, they looked for a way to make it an even bigger success\s the answer was the Model
182. The Cessna 182 Skylane feels and acts like a heavier, more powerful version of its sibling, the 172 Skyhawk. The airplane is a workhorse and a
stable platform for flying on instruments. Even with a full tank, the 182 carries a family-size useful load and performs admirably as an aerial sport
utility vehicle."

[General]
atc_type=Cessna
atc_model=C182
editable=0
performance="Maximum Speed\t\n165 kts 200 mph\t321 km\/h\n\nCruise Speed\t\n155 kts 185 mph \t297 km\/h\n\nEngine\t\nTCM 'Gold
Medallion' IO-550 300 hp\n\nPropeller\t\nThree-bladed Hartzell 'Scimitar' constant speed\n\nMaximum Range\t\n968 nm 1,114 sm \t1,793
km\n\nService Ceiling\t\n18,100 ft \t 5,517 m\n\nFuel Capacity\t\n92 U.S. gal 348 L \n\nEmpty Weight\t\n1,927 lb \t 874
kg\n\nMaximum Gross Weight\t\n3,180 lb \t 1,442 kg\n\nLength\t\n29 ft\t 8.84 m\n\nWingspan\t\n36 ft\t 11 m\n\nHeight\t\n9 ft\t
2.77 m\n\nSeating\t\nUp to 4 \n\nUseful Load\t\n1,300 lb \t 590 kg"


[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
max_gross_weight = 3180 // (pounds)
empty_weight = 1927 // (pounds)

reference_datum_position = 3.6, 0, 0 // (feet) distance from FlightSim Reference position: (1/4 chord, centerline, waterline)
empty_weight_CG_position = -3.0, 0, 0 // (feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from specified datum

max_number_of_stations = 50

station_load.0 = "170, -3.0, -1.5, 0.0, Pilot" // Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.1 = "170, -3.0, 1.5, 0.0, Front Passenger" // Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.2 = "160, -6.2, -1.5, 0.0, Rear Passenger" // Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.3 = "160, -6.2, 1.5, 0.0, Rear Passenger" // Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.4 = "60, -8.0, 0.0, 0.0, Baggage" // Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)
station_load.5 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.6 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"

;Moments of Inertia
empty_weight_pitch_MOI = 1400.0
empty_weight_roll_MOI = 1137.0
empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 2360.0
empty_weight_coupled_MOI= 0.0

[flight_tuning]
cruise_lift_scalar = 1.0
parasite_drag_scalar = 1.0
induced_drag_scalar = 1.0
elevator_effectiveness = 1.0
aileron_effectiveness = 1.0
rudder_effectiveness = 1.0
pitch_stability = 1.0
roll_stability = 1.0
yaw_stability = 1.0
elevator_trim_effectiveness = 1.0
aileron_trim_effectiveness = 1.0
rudder_trim_effectiveness = 1.0

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type = 0 //0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=Turboprop
Engine.0 = 2.4, 0.0, 0.0 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum
fuel_flow_scalar= 1.0 //Fuel flow scalar
min_throttle_limit = 0.0 //Minimum percent throttle. Generally negative for turbine reverser

[piston_engine]
power_scalar = 1.0 //Piston power scalar
cylinder_displacement= 90.3 //Cubic inches per cylinder
compression_ratio= 8.5 //Compression ratio
number_of_cylinders=6 //Number of cylinders
max_rated_rpm= 2700 //Max rated RPM
max_rated_hp= 300 //Max rated HP
fuel_metering_type= 0 //0=Fuel Injected, 1=Gravity Carburetor, 2=Aerobatic Carburetor
cooling_type= 1 //0=Cooling type Air, 1=Cooling type Liquid
normalized_starter_torque= 0.3 //Starter torque factor
turbocharged= 0 //Is it turbocharged? 0=FALSE, 1=TRUE
max_design_mp= 0 //Max design manifold pressure, (inHg)
min_design_mp= 0 //Min design manifold pressure, (inHg)
critical_altitude= 0 //Altitude to which the turbocharger will provide max design manifold pressure (feet)
emergency_boost_type= 0 //0=None, 1=Water Injection, 2=Methanol/Water injection, 3=War Emergency Power
emergency_boost_mp_offset= 0 //Additional manifold pressure supplied by emergency boost
emergency_boost_gain_offset= 0 //Multiplier on manifold pressure due to emergency boost
fuel_air_auto_mixture= 0 //Automixture available? 0=FALSE, 1=TRUE
auto_ignition= 0 //Auto-Ignition available? 0=FALSE, 1=TRUE
max_rpm_mechanical_efficiency_scalar= 1.0 //Scalar on maximum RPM mechanical efficiency
idle_rpm_mechanical_efficiency_scalar= 1.0 //Scalar on idle RPM mechanical efficiency
max_rpm_friction_scalar= 1.0 //Scalar on maximum RPM friction
idle_rpm_friction_scalar= 1.0 //Scalar on idle RPM friction

[propeller]
thrust_scalar = 1.0 //Propeller thrust scalar
propeller_type= 0 //0=Constant Speed, 1=Fixed Pitch
propeller_diameter= 6.58 //Propeller Diameter, (feet)
propeller_blades= 3 //Number of propeller blades
propeller_moi= 8.3 //Propeller moment of inertia
beta_max= 31.7 //Maximum blade pitch angle for constant speed prop, (degrees)
beta_min= 14.9 //Minimum blade pitch angle for constant speed prop, (degrees)
min_gov_rpm= 1400 //Miminum governed RPM
prop_tc= 0.1 //Prop time-constant
gear_reduction_ratio= 1.0 //Propeller gear reduction ratio
fixed_pitch_beta= 20 //Fixed pitch angle of fixed pitch prop, (degrees)
low_speed_theory_limit= 80 //Speed at which low speed theory becomes blended in (feet/second)
prop_sync_available= 0 //Prop synchronization available? 0=FALSE, 1=TRUE
prop_deice_available= 0 //Prop de-icing available? 0=FALSE, 1=TRUE
prop_feathering_available= 0 //Prop feathering available? 0=FALSE, 1=TRUE
prop_auto_feathering_available= 0 //Prop auto-feathering available? 0=FALSE, 1=TRUE
min_rpm_for_feather= 0 //Minimum RPM for prop feathering
beta_feather= 0 //Feathering pitch angle (degrees)
power_absorbed_cf= 0 //Coefficient of friction for power absorbed by propeller
defeathering_accumulators_available= 0 //Defeathering accumulators available? 0=FALSE, 1=TRUE
prop_reverse_available= 0 //Prop reverse available? 0=FALSE, 1=TRUE
minimum_on_ground_beta= 0 //Miminum pitch angle on ground, (degrees)
minimum_reverse_beta= 0 //Minimum pitch angle in reverse, (degrees)

[electrical]
;BusType, MaxAmpLoad, MinVoltage BusTypes:0=MainBus,1=AvionicsBus,2=BatteryBus,3=HotBatteryBus,4-7=Generator/AlternatorBus(1-4)
flap_motor = 0, 5 , 17.0
gear_motor = 0, 5 , 17.0
autopilot = 0, 5 , 17.0
avionics_bus = 0, 5 , 17.0
avionics = 1, 5 , 17.0
pitot_heat = 0, 2 , 17.0
additional_system = 0, 2 , 17.0
marker_beacon = 1, 2 , 17.0
gear_warning = 0, 2 , 17.0
fuel_pump = 0, 5 , 17.0
starter1 = 0, 20, 17.0
light_nav = 0, 5 , 17.0
light_beacon = 0, 5 , 17.0
light_landing = 0, 5 , 17.0
light_taxi = 0, 5 , 17.0
light_strobe = 0, 5 , 17.0
light_panel = 0, 5 , 17.0

//0 Class
//1 Longitudinal Position (feet)
//2 Lateral Position (feet)
//3 Vertical Position (feet)
//4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)
//5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)
//6 Wheel Radius (feet)
//7 Steer Angle (degrees)
//8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid)
//9 Max/Static Compression Ratio
//10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)
//11 Extension Time (seconds)
//12 Retraction Time (seconds)
//13 Sound Type
[contact_points]
point.0 = 1, 0.48, 0.00, -3.58, 1500, 0, 0.5, 22.0, 0.3, 2.5, 0.7, 0.0, 0.0, 0
point.1 = 1, -5.02, -4.50, -3.33, 2500, 1, 0.5, 0.0, 0.3, 2.5, 0.7, 0.0, 0.0, 2
point.2 = 1, -5.02, 4.50, -3.33, 2500, 2, 0.5, 0.0, 0.3, 2.5, 0.7, 0.0, 0.0, 3
point.3 = 2, -3.60, -17.9, 2.08, 1574.8, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0.0, 0.0
point.4 = 2, -3.60, 17.9, 2.08, 1574.8, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 6, 0.0, 0.0
point.5 = 2, -19.93, 0.0, 0.83, 1574.8, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 9, 0.0, 0.0
point.6 = 2, 1.40, 0.0, -1.33, 1574.8, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0.0, 0.0
point.7 = 2, -19.93, 0.0, 6.83, 1574.8, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 7, 0.0, 0.0
point.8 = 2, -4.60, 0.0, -1.33, 1574.8, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 8, 0.0, 0.0

max_number_of_points = 21

static_pitch=3.82 //degrees, pitch when at rest on the ground (+=Up, -=Dn)
static_cg_height=3.015 //feet, altitude of CG when at rest on the ground

[brakes]
parking_brake = 1 //Parking brake available
toe_brakes_scale = 0.68 //Brake scalar

[hydraulic_system]
normal_pressure = 0.0 //PSI

[fuel]
//Tanks Position and capacity:
//Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)
LeftMain = -3.85, -2.10, 2.50, 46.0, 0.00
RightMain= -3.85, 2.10, 2.50, 46.0, 0.00
//Fuel type: 1 = Avgas, 2 = JetA
fuel_type=1
number_of_tank_selectors = 1
electric_pump=1

[Views]
eyepoint= -3.95, -0.85, 2.1 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum

[flaps.0]
type = 1 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard = 0.5 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time = 5 // seconds
flaps-position.0 = 0 // degrees
flaps-position.1 = 10 // degrees
flaps-position.2 = 20 // degrees
flaps-position.3 = 30 // degrees
damaging-speed = 250 // KIAS
blowout-speed = 300 // KIAS
lift_scalar = 1.0
drag_scalar = 1.0
pitch_scalar= 1.0
system_type = 0 //0=Electric, 1=Hydraulic, 2=Pneumatic, 3=Manual, 4=None

[Radios]
// Radio Type = availiable, standby frequency, has glide slope
Audio.1 = 1
Com.1 = 1, 1
Com.2 = 1, 1
Nav.1 = 1, 1, 1
Nav.2 = 1, 1, 0
Adf.1 = 1
Transponder.1 = 1
Marker.1 = 1

[keyboard_response]
//Breakpoint speeds (knots) on the keyboard increments of control surfaces.
//Speed at which the incremenet is reduced to 1/2 and 1/8 respectively.
elevator = 100, 180
aileron = 200, 1000
rudder = 200, 1000

[direction_indicators]
//1 Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro, 3=Electro-Mag Slaved Compass, 4=Slaved to another
//2 Indicator number of slaving indicator if Type = 4
direction_indicator.0=1,0

[attitude_indicators]
//Type: 0=None, 1=Vacuum Gyro, 2=Electric Gyro
attitude_indicator.0 = 1

[turn_indicators]
//Type: 0=None, 1=Electric Gyro, 2=Vacuum Gyro
turn_indicator.0=1,1 //Turn AND Bank

[airspeed_indicators]
airspeed_indicator.0 = 1.3, -24.0

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit
light.0 = 3, -3.03, -18.11, 3.58, fx_navred
light.1 = 3, -3.03, 18.11, 3.58, fx_navgre
light.2 = 3, -21.45, 0.00, 1.95, fx_navwhi
light.3 = 2, -3.33, -18.31, 3.58, fx_strobe
light.4 = 2, -3.33, 18.31, 3.58, fx_strobe
light.5 = 1, -21.52, 0.00, 7.40, fx_beacon
light.6 = 4, -2.24, 0.00, 2.20, fx_vclight

[EFFECTS]
wake=fx_wake
water=fx_spray
dirt=fx_tchdrt
concrete=fx_sparks
touchdown=fx_tchdwn_s, 1

[airplane_geometry]
wing_area = 176.0 //Square feet
wing_span = 36.0 //Feet
wing_root_chord = 4.9 //Feet
wing_dihedral = 1.7 //Degrees
wing_incidence = 1.5 //Degrees
wing_twist = -3.0 //Degrees
oswald_efficiency_factor= 0.7 //Measure of lift effeciency of wing
wing_winglets_flag = 0 //Are winglets available?
wing_sweep = 0.0 //Degrees, wing leading edge
wing_pos_apex_lon = -2.4 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft
wing_pos_apex_vert = 0.0 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up
htail_area = 39.0 //Square feet
htail_span = 11.7 //Feet
htail_pos_lon = -18.3 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft
htail_pos_vert = 0.0 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up
htail_incidence = 3.2 //Degrees
htail_sweep = 10.0 //Degrees, horizontal tail leading edge
vtail_area = 18.0 //Square feet
vtail_span = 4.8 //Feet, tip to body
vtail_sweep = 40.0 //Degrees, vertical tail leading edge
vtail_pos_lon = -16.2 //Feet, longitudinal distance from reference point, negative going aft
vtail_pos_vert = 1.5 //Feet, vertical distance from reference point, positive going up
elevator_area = 16.6 //Square feet
aileron_area = 18.3 //Square feet
rudder_area = 6.7 //Square feet
elevator_up_limit = 28.0 //Degrees
elevator_down_limit = 21.0 //Degrees
aileron_up_limit = 20.0 //Degrees
aileron_down_limit = 15.0 //Degrees
rudder_limit = 24.0 //Degrees
elevator_trim_limit = 19.5 //Degrees
spoiler_limit = 0.0 //Degrees
spoilerons_available = 0 //Spoilerons Available?
aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 0 //Aileron to spoileron gain
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons = 0 //Degrees
min_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0 //Minimum flap handle position when spoilerons activate

[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed = 54.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
full_flaps_stall_speed = 49.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
cruise_speed = 155.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
max_indicated_speed = 240 //Red line (KIAS)

[autopilot]
autopilot_available= 1
flight_director_available= 0
default_vertical_speed= 700.0
autothrottle_available= 0
pitch_takeoff_ga=8.0
max_pitch=10.0
max_pitch_acceleration=1.0
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.0
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.5
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000.0
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.0
max_bank=25.0
max_bank_acceleration=1.8
max_bank_velocity=3.00
max_throttle_rate=0.10
nav_proportional_control=9.00
nav_integrator_control=0.25
nav_derivative_control=0.00
nav_integrator_boundary=2.50
nav_derivative_boundary=0.00
gs_proportional_control=9.52
gs_integrator_control=0.26
gs_derivative_control=0.00
gs_integrator_boundary=0.70
gs_derivative_boundary=0.00
yaw_damper_gain = 0.0

[forcefeedback]
gear_bump_nose_magnitude=6000 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_nose_direction=18000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_nose_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
gear_bump_left_magnitude=6000 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_left_direction=35500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_left_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
gear_bump_right_magnitude=6000 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_right_direction=00500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_right_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
ground_bumps_magnitude1=3250 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle1=8900 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept1=5.0
ground_bumps_slope1=0.48
ground_bumps_magnitude2=750 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle2=9100 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept2=0.075
ground_bumps_slope2=1.0
crash_magnitude1=10000 ; 0 - 10000
crash_direction1=01000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
crash_magnitude2=10000 ; 0 - 10000
crash_direction2=9000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
crash_period2=75000 ; in microseconds
crash_duration2=2500000 ; in microseconds

[stall_warning]
type=2

[Permj]

hey thanks for the aircraft.cfg :D

[Permj]

Hmm the aircraft aint shows in fs whats the problem? :S

[highlander]

Did you ensure the "TITLE" line is different from the ones in your normal C182's aircraft.cfg? Did you ensure that the "ui_type" is different from
the normal C182 ?

If you have done both of the above, you should see it listed under Cessna as "C182-300 Skylane" (or whatever you set it to).

[Permj]

nice now its workin
i have another question... if the wheels of the concorde cant come down... and i has to make a belly landing...
shall i turn the visior down or up?...

[Permj]

and...
if i ex start a company with the default cessna 172... and i buy flight1 cessna 172, can i fly the Flight1 without i have to sell the default c 172
and then buy the flight1 c172?

[Drew]

you can have an mant cessnas in your company that you want, have 20 if you wish no need to sell the default one

[Covoxer]

i have another question... if the wheels of the concorde cant come down... and i has to make a belly landing...
shall i turn the visior down or up?...

Well, there was no belly landing performed by Concorde in reality, you know.
But I'm sure that in case you need to make it, you have to turn visor all the way down.
First of all, you need the best possible visibility of where you are going.
Secondly, visor should not have any influence on the landing process. Your touchdown will be at positive pitch anyway, which garantees
that visor will touch ground first. That should be endines nacelles. They would receive the hit, and should absorbe it by deformation of
their construction and engines.
So, if visor will ever touch the ground, it should not result in any significand damage to pax.

All above is my opinion, I do not know is it true, though.

[poden]

Just think, the Concorde flying in FSP may well be the only time the Concorde ever made a profit!

[WBHoenig]