24-01-2006, 10:52 PM
Will you get a penalty for taking off from a runway that ATC DOES not tell you to?
taking off from wrong runway
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24-01-2006, 10:52 PM
Will you get a penalty for taking off from a runway that ATC DOES not tell you to?
24-01-2006, 10:58 PM
ATC? Who listens to them??
No, Fs Passengers does not listen either! To do is to be..Descartes To be is to do.. Neitche Do be do..Do be do..Sinatra RonMac Glasgow
24-01-2006, 11:05 PM
FS Passengers does not integrate with ATC at all - you dont even have to bother talking to them at all - land and takeo off as you please.
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24-01-2006, 11:33 PM
Luckily, lol. I think I would still be C0 with a huge amount of negative points if I got penalized for all the times I didn't listen to ATC.
Like... "jetBlue 220, Go around." "Say again." "jetBlue 220, Go around." "Say again." And by that time I'll have landed, so I really couldn't get penalized either, since I could say that I just didn't hear their instructions, so I had them repeat it a few times, and by the time I understood the command, I was on the ground! Lol, stupid ATC.
Chris
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25-01-2006, 12:36 AM
My favorite method of landing VFR is to just keep cancelling / reattempting until I get the "make straight in" instruction from ATC. I don't do IFR
very much; its just a little to skewed in FS2004.
300,000 km/sec. Its not just a good idea, its the law.
25-01-2006, 08:29 AM
Quote:Like...Yes, I do it all the time!!! ![]() ![]() ![]()
John
25-01-2006, 10:06 AM
Quote:Covoxer wrote: I hear that, been there and got the scars to prove it. ![]() Flying for Landmark Airlines.
25-01-2006, 10:39 AM
(raises hand) me too.... I don't think many people havnt...
(I wonder what would happen in the real world if someone tried that?). Another frustration is the lack of seperation on finals from the ATC. There where 3 aircraft all stacked, ready to land on finals, I was the middle aircraft. I could clearly see teh aircraft in front (about 3 miles away) directly on the GS - same as me. I could also see the aircraft behind me. The rouble is that we were all closing up on each other - I was going faster than the first aircraft (I was flying at the V speed recommended by the FMC), and the aircraft behind me was closing in on me... solution - turn off traffic. Turn it back on again when wheels on ground. Another ATC problem I find is on runway 24 (I think) at EGCC. The ATC does not recognise aircraft waiting to take off. problem one : Aircraft taxis on the the runway - but it doesnt ask for takeoff clearance (this has happened now about 5 times - far too regular I think its an airport setting problem). This creates a big wiat for other aircraft (including mine) waiting to takeoff. However, every so often - even though the aircraft has not taken off - another aircraft will taxi on top of the other aircraft - and wait. I have seen on few occasions 4 aircraft all at the same point, all waiting. This happened to me once, doing takeoff checklist, and one of the AI planes taxiied into me - caused FSP to give me the sack. ATC and the AI need a boot up the ass. ![]()
25-01-2006, 10:53 AM
Quote:I hear that, been there and got the scars to prove it.Yes. So what? ![]() ![]() Is it some kind of secret? ![]()
John
25-01-2006, 11:15 AM
Quote:Another ATC problem I find is on runway 24 (I think) at EGCC. The ATC does not recognise aircraft waiting to take off.That's right! I know this issue wery well, since EGCC is my hub in Altair VA. Runway 24R is wrong in this airport. What I have noticed: 1. There are two "24R" signs on the runway entrance. 2. Any aircraft, once entered this runway is ignored by the tower. So if you on position and there's some traffic behind you, they would be cleared as well, resulting in collision. So is for AI. Besides you may be cleared to land while there's an aircraft on the runway. 3. If AI plane is in position it will newer takeoff. It will just disappear after a couple of minutes. This happens always. And this is definitely the bug in the airport. And, yes I have encountered the same or very similar bug in some other airports. Can figure out which if you are interested.
John
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