Company income

[lchristianes]

Take a look at this part of one of my flight records:
( for full info, please visit http://www.fspassengers.com/?action=va&listflight=8318 )

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-one engine sustained major damage shortly after take-off due to a bird strike and shutdown immediately. This is one of the worst
possible in-flight emergencies.

Total Real Income: $-1,279
Total Income: $-63,950 (real x50)
Fleet Bonus: $0 (0 aircraft)
Total Sim Income: $-63,950 (total income+fleet bonus)
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There was a serious problem aboard, and resulted in a safe landing, but anyway, there was loss of money due to many things that we
already know, and nothing wrong with that so far.
The problem is that this loss is also multiplied by 50, which would mean that all the 50 aircrafts in the fleet would have problem too.
In my opinion, only wins should be multiplied. Fortunately, failures do not happen in all planes at the same time.
No, I don't really care about the money... lol But I guess it would be more realistic to multiply the flight income only when there's no
mechanical failure during the flight.
In case of human failure, eg. exceeded flap airspeed limit, we suppose that the flying skills of the pilots is about the same, and probably
it would happen most of the times, so we should multiply it by 50.

[Ryanamur]

First, the 50x multiplier has nothing to do with the number of aircraft in your fleet. Yes, it's perfectly normal for the multiplier to take effect
event if you loose money. The multiplier is there to make the financial management of your company easier. All incomes (minus
expenses) are multiplied by 50 for every flight you make. Technically, that should be called profits. If you want you can set the multiplier to
any value between 1 and 100 (I think) by creating a new scenario.

[aibiria]

I don't think it isn't unfair. When you win you win and when you loose you loose. Don't you think?

Putting on your way, that real x50 for benefits shouldn't be there.

[poden]

The 50x multiplier is certainly very artificial, but kind of necessary. If it wasn't present, you'd have to start your company out with a LARGE
initial amount of money if you wanted to be able to buy larger aircraft. This is due to lack of a "finaincing model" in the game (where an airline
secures financing to obtain aircraft). Just throwing in the multiplier allows you to start small and build up without having to do huge numbers of
flights. For what the multiplier does, it isn't too bad. The nice thing is, you can adjust it when you start your airline.

[SWAFO]

To be completely honest, something like a "3,000X multiplier" would be much more realistic (at least if your virtual airline is based off
SWA... like mine ) Keep in mind that if you're simulating a SINGLE flight a day using FSP with a 50X multiplier, it's the equivalent to
completing 50 real world flights. If the company you're simulating (if you do chose to simulate a real world company) has say 1,000
flights a day, a 1,000X multiplier would be most realistic. Make sense?

Just thought I'd add that

[poden]

SWAFO wrote:
To be completely honest, something like a "3,000X multiplier" would be much more realistic (at least if your virtual airline is based off
SWA... like mine ) Keep in mind that if you're simulating a SINGLE flight a day using FSP with a 50X multiplier, it's the equivalent to
completing 50 real world flights. If the company you're simulating (if you do chose to simulate a real world company) has say 1,000
flights a day, a 1,000X multiplier would be most realistic. Make sense?

Just thought I'd add that

Well, I thought the "fleet bonus" reflected the activity of the other aircraft in your fleet. The multiplier just multiplies everything, including
the fleet activity.

[SWAFO]

I wasn't even aware there was a "fleet bonus". My fleet consists of one 737-7H4. That's it!

[poden]

SWAFO wrote:
I wasn't even aware there was a "fleet bonus". My fleet consists of one 737-7H4. That's it!

Haha, I didn't know about the fleet bonus either, until I actually had more than 1 plane. It sort of surprised me. Yeah, there is a separate fleet
bonus, and a multiplier.

[SWAFO]

Well as I've stated in the past, I don't fly FSP for the economic side. I fly it for the ambiance, and realism in terms of a "pilot's perspective"
that it adds to FS9. I don't worry about multipliers, fleet income, or any of that stuff! I just hop in and fly!

[Jackal]

so, am i right in guessing having multiple aircraft gives you a fleet bonus then??? or is there more to it than that?

i only have one aircraft and was curious as to what the fleet bonus was all about.. sorry if it's a dumb question

[jboweruk]

Yep, if you have multiple aircraft you get a fleet bonus for them. BUT they have to be in good (flyable) condition and you have to do a good
flight to get the bonus. This is seperate to the modifier and is applied AFTER that. It was included by Dan as a means of rewarding
people who had multiple aircraft, since obviously you can't fly them all.

[lchristianes]

So, this is not only a win-loose.
In the real world, just like Brad said, there are hundreds of flights a day. How many of them have failures? That's the point.
I also don't care about the money in FsP, but I must get some in order to enjoy another feature of this add-on - the company objectives.
I use a single 737-700, and I have no fleet bonus.
By the way, what's the real intention in having such points?

[jboweruk]

If you need more money then buy some small aircraft that you can afford and fly the biggest, that is the way to make the most money. Also
the longer the flight the more you will make. That's all part of the fun of FSP. Making money is a big chunk of it if you are using economic
mode.

[Ionathan]

...but what parameters do count in the fleet bonus? I mean is it only the number and the condition of the aircrafts or their size as well?

[SaVas]

Think about the bonus this way:

If you have a 50x multiplier with one plane in your fleet, and your flight with services taken out, taxes and insurance, garners you $10,000,
you get $500,000 (kind of like helping you get money fairly quickly so you dont have to take 3 years saving enough money to get a new
747.

Now same plane lets say has a serious issue aboard on final on the same flight, you land safely, get gobs of points, but the damage is
extensive. Now you have that $10,000 as you would above, but because you have the 50x multiplier, it makes it $500,000 and the
damage to your plane costs you <$15,000> and the multiplier makes that <$750,000> , so in essence you lose
$250,000.

it isnt right to make $500,000 but only take a hit of $15,000 giving you $485,000 in the black. The multiplier takes into effect the
good and the bad.

It is the same if you made $10,000 with no multiplier and had $15,000 in damages meaning you lost $5000