Tips on landing...

[timtomairways]

timtomairways wrote:
best tip is the most obvious

i got to say practice makes perfect

usally my approach speed is 140kias in a 737-800, on ILS approaches i use autpilot down to minimums then i cut off autopilot with the Z
key, at 100 above i hit the S key (this i set in the controles menue as its not default) but dont touch the throttle until 30-50 ft above, FSX will
keep your throttle seeting from autothrottle until you manualy change it, i also start a very small pull up at 100 above probly about 1-3
degrees per seconed and thats from a 3.5 degree pitch as indicated by the PFD

to auto land the default 737-800 set up for your appraoch as normal. check following conditions
autobrake set
spoilers armed
autopilot on (set to approach hold)
autothrottle on (set to Vref)
gear down (obviously)

the default autopilot is not capable of autolanding but there is a way to do it.
set your altitude hold to 0000 but dont turn on alttitude hold, set Vertical speed to -100 or -200 (use -100 unless nessacery, but dont go
above -200) watch the glideslops dimond the FSX autpilot will hold it preety good if you set everything up correctly (it takes some practice
to achieve master throw skill)

normally if you left the approach hold on the GS will start to rise as you get closer to the runway, so the aircraft will pitch up to get back on
glideslope, this is where it messes up as the glideslop will shot back down below ideal, so the aircraft will nose down to get it back. this
useally ends up with the nose down on touchdown, withch will caues the nose gear to break and callaops.

that happens 90% of the time you leave approach hold on, one time approach hold actually held the GS all the way to touchdown,

back to how to autoland. you have to watch that GS dimond
check the te following conditions are set
alttitude hold selector set to 0000
vertical speed selector set to -100
N! hold selector set to 20%
autopilot and autothrottle on

at 200 above get ready. make shure your still on GS and localizer, if your not lined up correctly go around dont force her down. anyway
whatch the GS dimond it will start to move upwords, when it actualy starts moving up is diffrent everytime (but its usealyy arounnd or
below 100 above) so you have to watch it, when it rockets uppush the altitude hold butten (approach hold should stay lit) the aircraft will
now do a descent of -100 (what you set in the Vertical speed selector

when you are 40 or 50 above push the N1 hold button and the engines will spoll back to idel, touching down nice and easy. aftr
touchdown turn off autothrottle (i recommend setting a key for this i use the S key) and activate revers thrust (after the nose gear touches
down)

thats how to autoland the defalut 737-800

it also works in most other default jet aircraft. but ive only tryed it in the default 737-800 and 737-400 (from FS9)

like i said before " it take some time and practice to ahive master throw skill but its well worth it"

thought yall might like to see the results of useing the autoland teniece i described above.

when its done corecctly look what happens

http://www.fspassengers.com/?action=va&l...ght=276303

how do you like that touch down, bearly even felt it

[Wreck1463]

itsthebrod wrote:
I just finished another 737 landing (touchdown at -230 ft/min) without the pitch problem. I'm thinking perhaps it was happening because I
was below
the glide slope and the plane was trying to pitch up to re-catch it. Thanks for all the tips everyone.

Come to think of it, one of the times I had the pitch problem on landing was when my flaps failed and I had to land without any flap
extension, hence
the excessive pitch as I landed and the resulting tail strike.

If you have a flap failure, you need to add a lot of airspeed, or you will be very close to stalling the airplane at touchdown. In the Learjet, for
every notch of flaps that you aren't able to get, you add ten knots to the airspeed. Someone who flies an airliner in real life might be able to
tell you the corrections for no flaps for those aircraft, but that was definately why you were pitched up on that landing. In real life, as in FS,
the lighter your aircraft is in these situations, the better. Also, a big long runway always helps. I've had this happen in real life, and it's
definately a different "picture" coming in so fast.

[timtomairways]

Wreck1463 wrote:

itsthebrod wrote:
I just finished another 737 landing (touchdown at -230 ft/min) without the pitch problem. I'm thinking perhaps it was happening because I
was below
the glide slope and the plane was trying to pitch up to re-catch it. Thanks for all the tips everyone.

Come to think of it, one of the times I had the pitch problem on landing was when my flaps failed and I had to land without any flap
extension, hence
the excessive pitch as I landed and the resulting tail strike.

If you have a flap failure, you need to add a lot of airspeed, or you will be very close to stalling the airplane at touchdown. In the Learjet, for
every notch of flaps that you aren't able to get, you add ten knots to the airspeed. Someone who flies an airliner in real life might be able to
tell you the corrections for no flaps for those aircraft, but that was definately why you were pitched up on that landing. In real life, as in FS,
the lighter your aircraft is in these situations, the better. Also, a big long runway always helps. I've had this happen in real life, and it's
definately a different "picture" coming in so fast.

my instructer should me a zero flap landing in the skyhawk once. our speed was about 70 when comming in the flar lasted a very long
time

[AnsettAddict123]

i've never blown tyres, but i have come close to it many times the way i improved was...

1: like what wrek1643 i reccomend starting with large intl airports that in turn have long runways as you can afford to touchdown a bit late...
2:after the first time you fly to it, fly there again so you continue to familurise yourself with how you should best approach it (ie: height at
various points across the approach and allignment) listen to the PAPI'S!!!!!
3: repeat step 2
4: repeat step 3
by now you'll of learnt the workings of the airport and how to land really well at it, if you land at other airports now you'll find that you're alot
more confident with the approach procedure and your touchdown have improved

other stuff to try: experiment with views like what gapache said, everyones different!
lighten the aircraft, load only the fuel you need
listen to the papi's and try your best to track them during the approach
done flare too early, i find it best to flare later but with slightly more pitch
use the ils if need be

i hoped i helped instead of just rambling

[SLicTa]

Personnaly, until now, I never had tires problems but I easily understand that people do, it's not easy.
Ok to begin with big runways to touchdown a little bit later, but don't forget that famous sentence (from a real 737 trainer

"A firm landing in the TDZ is a good one, a smooth landing outside the TDZ is bad - despite any comments from the cabin crew !"

( I love this sentence :p )

[AnsettAddict123]

SLicTa wrote:
Personnaly, until now, I never had tires problems but I easily understand that people do, it's not easy.
Ok to begin with big runways to touchdown a little bit later, but don't forget that famous sentence (from a real 737 trainer

"A firm landing in the TDZ is a good one, a smooth landing outside the TDZ is bad - despite any comments from the cabin crew !
"

( I love this sentence :p )

very true either run off the end of the runway for the sake of a soft touchdown, or stop in time with a sore arse:P

[Polarair]

I learned to land in pilot career mode whit cessna. Whit that way i learned the basics. Really good way to learn how to land whit diffrent size
aircrafts. Its just stupid to take biggest airplane and try to land whit that u will propably blow your tires often whit that way. Well thats my story..

[JetlinerX]

In all my landings, I used my 1 rule.

"Its better to be too fast, then to be too slow and stall before the runway"

A faster landing will be softer, but the faster it is, eather:
1) Your gona have to be lower on approach
2) Your gona have to touchdown late
or 3) You are gona use alot of braking.

So my only tip is to approach a little slower, and just experiment with your high and low speed approaches.

[timtomairways]

i read in a FAA book, that

the perfect landing is always done on a day when the airport is desserted.
but you will always bounce it on a day when you girl is with ya and theres a flyin going on