NEW True or false....? #9

[Anastasios]

Ok!

Next question!

Situation:

A passengers walks to a flight attendant to tell her that she found a strange device with a note in the forward toilet.
As the attendant takes a look she reads the note: 'BOMB ON BOARD'.
The note was located next to a strange looking device on the floor of the lavatory.

After she reported to the purser and captain, the crew started the procedure of handling a bomb on board.
After contact with ground specialists they identified the device and decided it was safe to move it to a safer location.

They followed one of these procedures:

A: Cabin crew removed one of the service trolleys in the most aft galley and placed the device in
the position of this trolley.
After that, the cabin crew collected jackets, seat cushions, pillows, blankets and bags to completely stow
this position.

B: Cabin crew attached the device to one of the aft doors with a rope. The cabin crew collected jackets,
seat cushions, pillows, blankets and bags and build a wall around the device with these items.

C: The device remained in the toilet as this is the safest place for the device as it is in a closed area. The cabin crew collected jackets,
seat cushions, pillows, blankets and bags to completely stow the toilet with it.

D: Cabin crew reseated passengers of the last 10 rows and placed the device on one of the seats or,
if it fits, in the seatpocket. The cabin crew collected jackets, seat cushions, pillows, blankets and bags and build
a wall around the device with these items.

E: A device that may possibly be a bomb may never be moved to another location. The plane will land as soon as possible.

F: None of these procedures are correct.

Make your choice!

Anastasios.



Post Edited ( 09-04-07 20:29 )

[gronji2004]

Oh I am stuck with E and D.

D = If the plane is unable to land quickly (transatlantic flight), then I would say this procedure is correct.

E = If the plane is able to land, then It should be done!

Great topic!

[Captain_Smith]

I think it's C if they can't land fast.

and normal circumstances E.

[omarza]

As its safe to move the bomb it should be moved to the location on the aircraft where it will do the least amount of damage if it detonates.
Therefore I think the location might vary depending on aircraft type. Stuffing jackets, cushions pillows etc around it to my knowledge are the way to
go as it will assist in directing the blast (if it goes off) towards the area predetermined where least damage may occur... usually an aft door.. and it should result in an outward explosion with the items packed around it limiting damage towards the inside.

Therefore I have to go with B on this one.

Once again very interesting questions and very informative... tx Anastasios



Post Edited ( 09-04-07 21:24 )

[Daza XIII]

I can't see it being correct but B seems to have some logic to it. If it does go off whilst attached to the door perhaps the thinking is it will
blow the door out and leave the airframe (mostly) intact.

I'm going to pick E though. Not touching it at all seems the safest course of action.

[Anastasios]

Aaahhh...
I should wait but I want to give the answer...

Anastasios.

[Jambone]

I am torn between B & E

E = If its able to land, then it should do that

B = If the bomb blows, the blast will go straight out the door...

Im gonna go B

[Canada_Boy]

The way I see it is, if there is a powerful bomb on board...Making a nice fort around it with pillows isn't going to do much, especially if it is
going to blow a decent hole through the floor or wall.

I say E makes the most sense.



Post Edited ( 09-04-07 21:50 )

[Anastasios]

Ooowwwww, can't wait anymore...

Just have to give the answer now!

omarza wrote:
As its safe to move the bomb it should be moved to the location on the aircraft where it will do the least amount of damage if it detonates.
Therefore I think the location might vary depending on aircraft type. Stuffing jackets, cushions pillows etc around it to my knowledge are the way to
go as it will assist in directing the blast (if it goes off) towards the area predetermined where least damage may occur... usually an aft door.. and
it should result in an outward explosion with the items packed around it limiting damage towards the inside.

Therefore I have to go with B on this one.

Once again very interesting questions and very informative... tx Anastasios

I can't explain it any better.

Please keep discussing about this here, I will think of another question in the meanwhile.

Anastasios.

[Canada_Boy]

Meh.... I was pretty close

[Captain_Smith]

ha, these are really interesting.

Keep 'em coming. :D

I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to move the bomb to the position it needed to be in.

[Daza XIII]

I doubt there is an answer to this one but who exactly is qualified to decdide whether a device is safe to move or not ?

[Anastasios]

Daza XIII wrote:
I doubt there is an answer to this one but who exactly is qualified to decdide whether a device is safe to move or not ?

The cockpit will contact the Coördination centre of the airline. With bigger airlines there is always a doctor available for advise and in no time
there will be a bomb specialist. Then there is the crucial part of communication. We need to describe the bomb...

Also, when we decide to move it we must first slide a piece of paper underneath the device. To make sure it won't detonate by lifting it.

Anastasios.



Post Edited ( 09-04-07 22:27 )

[omarza]

The problem is in an aircraft the rules change. You cant evacuate in mid-air like in a building on the ground. You therefore have to take into
consideration whether the bomb can be moved and placed at such location where the minimal amount of damage can be done. Usually this is
pre-determined per aircraft type, to try minimizing damage, giving one a chance of survival if it goes off. Keep in mind that in the question it was
determined that the bomb can be moved. Also keep in mind that the pre-determined position has undergone a lot of research and things like structural
damage, hydraulics etc was carefully considered in the determining of that position. And I agree with Captain_Smith... I would like to be the one to
move it

[Anastasios]

They actually tested this...

During the training they showed us a video where they actually placed a bomb at an aft door. Inside they make that wall around it with seat cushions
and I believe they also pressurized it.

When the bomb exploded the door was blown out together with the bomb itself. The rest of the plane was completely intact. Ofcourse nobody is 100% sure
this will also happen on a fully loaded pressurizef flying airplane.

Anastasios.