11-02-2006, 01:55 PM
Well, I have to start trouble again with the plan
I was wondering about Howe Island as the runway is really short (2900 ft) so I went there,
first to see if I could take-off with the ATR. That was ok, although I used up the entire runway and rotated on the last meters. Then I tried a
landing. Approach is already difficult as there are only one NDB and a DME (no VOR) station as navaids. So, basically you have only a visual
clue to where you are. Means you have to know where the runway is because you don't see it 5 miles out.
I made it to the runway with -800fpm descent rate, full flaps and 110kts speed, touched down some 20ft behind the numbers (no vertical
guidance lights of course) and had absolutely no chance to get her stopped before the runway ends. At the end there's a slope falling down
to the sea. Crash!
I tried again, same result.
That's why I would like to propose yet another route, staying even longer on this small island called Australia:
22 Waypoint: Kingsford Smith Intl [YSSY], 406 nm
23 Waypoint: Melbourne Intl [YMML], 381 nm
24 Waypoint: Hobart, Tasmania [YMHB], 333 nm
25 Waypoint: Queenstown, NZ [NZQN], 924 nm
26 Waypoint: Auckland Intl [NZAA], 553 nm
27 Waypoint: Norfolk Island Intl [YSNF], 589 nm
28 Waypoint: Tontouta [NWWW], 432 nm
![[Image: planA.gif]](http://www.vademo.com:8080/images/planA.gif)
Melbourne and Hobart are ILS approaches, Queenstown is difficult as well and good visual is needed (see the video I posted in another
thread) but the runway is longer (~6000ft), navaids are better and there's a very nice free scenery available. I landed the MD-80 there lately
without problems. However it should be previewed first, because the visual through the mountains is tricky.
More advantages: we include Melbourne (didn't check yet, but the scenery included with VOZ pack should be nice too) and we don't do
Norfolk twice. OTOH Hobart-Queenstown is a pretty long leg, but shorter than Sydney-Auckland.
What you think?
Another possibility: stick to the original plan (next stop Auckland) which is a long leg but it's Saturday, then continue via Norfolk.
Personally I prefer the route via Tasmania.
Post Edited ( 02-11-06 13:59 )

first to see if I could take-off with the ATR. That was ok, although I used up the entire runway and rotated on the last meters. Then I tried a
landing. Approach is already difficult as there are only one NDB and a DME (no VOR) station as navaids. So, basically you have only a visual
clue to where you are. Means you have to know where the runway is because you don't see it 5 miles out.
I made it to the runway with -800fpm descent rate, full flaps and 110kts speed, touched down some 20ft behind the numbers (no vertical
guidance lights of course) and had absolutely no chance to get her stopped before the runway ends. At the end there's a slope falling down
to the sea. Crash!
I tried again, same result.
That's why I would like to propose yet another route, staying even longer on this small island called Australia:
22 Waypoint: Kingsford Smith Intl [YSSY], 406 nm
23 Waypoint: Melbourne Intl [YMML], 381 nm
24 Waypoint: Hobart, Tasmania [YMHB], 333 nm
25 Waypoint: Queenstown, NZ [NZQN], 924 nm
26 Waypoint: Auckland Intl [NZAA], 553 nm
27 Waypoint: Norfolk Island Intl [YSNF], 589 nm
28 Waypoint: Tontouta [NWWW], 432 nm
![[Image: planA.gif]](http://www.vademo.com:8080/images/planA.gif)
Melbourne and Hobart are ILS approaches, Queenstown is difficult as well and good visual is needed (see the video I posted in another
thread) but the runway is longer (~6000ft), navaids are better and there's a very nice free scenery available. I landed the MD-80 there lately
without problems. However it should be previewed first, because the visual through the mountains is tricky.
More advantages: we include Melbourne (didn't check yet, but the scenery included with VOZ pack should be nice too) and we don't do
Norfolk twice. OTOH Hobart-Queenstown is a pretty long leg, but shorter than Sydney-Auckland.
What you think?
Another possibility: stick to the original plan (next stop Auckland) which is a long leg but it's Saturday, then continue via Norfolk.
Personally I prefer the route via Tasmania.
Post Edited ( 02-11-06 13:59 )