26-05-2005, 09:11 PM
Nickio I have to disagree about FSHS especially. Since when on Vatsim could some real person be sitting there running the checks and
pushing their share of switches alongside you. And since when can you call those add-ons a joke when real pilots are recommending
Voxatc to learn phraseology before they move up. Not everybody wants to fly online myself included. I like to fly as a means of relieving the
tensions of a hard day and do not have time to spend learning all the necessary phrases to fly on VATSIM which a lot of ppl have said is
incredibly restrictive. Some have suggested that if you get it wrong you get booted on the spot. It can be very hard sometimes to get heard
over the internet if there's more than a couple of ppl online. I know I tried with my old airline's own ATC once and couldn't get heard. It was
the first and last time I tried to fly with ATC online. FSHS taught me to follow certain procedures in a plane. And having a cp in some of the
more complicated airliners is invaluable when landing and it gets really busy. I didn't mean my jibe at Jeffrey to be aimed at all
youngsters just don't like seeing a good add-on slated for no good reason. Remember we don't all have any training. And a lot of us are
making up what we missed out on. If i could have my time back don't you think I would've learned to fly? Instead of learning to drive which
frankly is useless to me now. Of course I would. But i can't go back and I don't have the money to learn so I satisfy my needs this way. I've
learned a lot from FS. Not only about flying per se but geography as well. And a bit of visual navigation and that is not very easy in FS. But
then I know for a fact it's not too easy in a real plane either. When I went for a lesson years ago in a Cessna I couldn't see the airfield till
we were practically over it. Grass strips are not easy to find. I used to be one of the gps brigade. But AP is far more satisfying. when I go
over to FSP on release I shall bring much of what I learned with me to fly the smaller props. And as such will get far more enjoyment out
of it no doubt. Lets not turn this into a flame war though. You fly your way and everyone else wil fly theirs. If flying online is how you get your kicks and you can get heard that's fine. But don't slate down add-ons like Hotseat and Vox because they have also got their place.
Post Edited ( 05-26-05 22:22 )
pushing their share of switches alongside you. And since when can you call those add-ons a joke when real pilots are recommending
Voxatc to learn phraseology before they move up. Not everybody wants to fly online myself included. I like to fly as a means of relieving the
tensions of a hard day and do not have time to spend learning all the necessary phrases to fly on VATSIM which a lot of ppl have said is
incredibly restrictive. Some have suggested that if you get it wrong you get booted on the spot. It can be very hard sometimes to get heard
over the internet if there's more than a couple of ppl online. I know I tried with my old airline's own ATC once and couldn't get heard. It was
the first and last time I tried to fly with ATC online. FSHS taught me to follow certain procedures in a plane. And having a cp in some of the
more complicated airliners is invaluable when landing and it gets really busy. I didn't mean my jibe at Jeffrey to be aimed at all
youngsters just don't like seeing a good add-on slated for no good reason. Remember we don't all have any training. And a lot of us are
making up what we missed out on. If i could have my time back don't you think I would've learned to fly? Instead of learning to drive which
frankly is useless to me now. Of course I would. But i can't go back and I don't have the money to learn so I satisfy my needs this way. I've
learned a lot from FS. Not only about flying per se but geography as well. And a bit of visual navigation and that is not very easy in FS. But
then I know for a fact it's not too easy in a real plane either. When I went for a lesson years ago in a Cessna I couldn't see the airfield till
we were practically over it. Grass strips are not easy to find. I used to be one of the gps brigade. But AP is far more satisfying. when I go
over to FSP on release I shall bring much of what I learned with me to fly the smaller props. And as such will get far more enjoyment out
of it no doubt. Lets not turn this into a flame war though. You fly your way and everyone else wil fly theirs. If flying online is how you get your kicks and you can get heard that's fine. But don't slate down add-ons like Hotseat and Vox because they have also got their place.
Post Edited ( 05-26-05 22:22 )
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