FS Passengers crash

[Georg Oftedal]

Hello,

I have exp. this problem several times now and this is happening when the aircrafts i.ex. jumps 0,1 or 0,2 ft while taxing or standing at the
gate. Can you fix that bug ?


Flight AC889 End of flight report Date August 18 2005
Flight ID: AC889
Pilot: Georg Oftedal
Company: Scandinavian Airlines
Aircraft: Project Opensky Airbus 330-300 SAS
Flight Date: August 18 2005
Departure: 18h15 (17h15 GMT)
Arrival: --
From: EGLL - Heathrow - United Kingdom
To: ----
Nbr of Passengers: 232

Accident Report:
The aircraft crashed at 18h15 hitting ground at 0 Km/h with a vert. speed of 0 ft/m.
There were no known failures on this aircraft at the time of the accident.The cause of the
crash remains unknown, most probably it was due to human error. No emergency was
declared before the crash.
Casualties:
-232 passengers aboard
-0 killed
-0 injured
-Pilot and flight crew were safe

Report:
Flight Distance: 0 Nm Landing Speed: --
Time Airborne: 00h00:00 Landing Touchdown: --
Flight Time (block): 00h00:00 Landing Pitch: --
Time On Ground: 00h14:25 Landing Weight: --
Average Speed: -- Total Fuel Used: 293 kg
Max. Altitude: 0ft Fuel Not Used: 57860 kg

Passenger Opinion: Terror and grief. (0%)

Crash Financial Report:
Taking into account the state of the aircraft and its current resale value after the crash. The
insurance company decided to pay a total of 0 Kr. which represents 0.00% of the resale
value. You can now decide to repair or sell the wreck. The insurance will pay all other
damages. The insurance rate increased by 0.00% and is now 4.32%.

Total Sim Income: 0 Kr.

Company Reputation:
Due to the crash, your company reputation is now: 73% (-0.00 decrease)
Overall flight Results: No Flight (Flight will not be recorded)

Pilot's Penalty points: -850 points
· Crash! You hit the ground with an impact speed of 0 ft/mn. There was no failure aboard this
aircraft before the crash and many passengers died because of pilot error. (-850)

[SWAFO]

Definetly weird! Dan will have to take a look at this one!

[SaVas]

This "jumping" of the aircraft tends to be from one of two things:

Your contact points on the aircraft are set incorrectly, or the scenery is rendering slowly (from switching views from external to cockpit and
vice versa)

One thing that has helped me with this is go into your assignments and set a key for refresh scenery. In areas that are heavily detailed
like large airports with a lot of traffic and weather loaded, as soon as you go into your cockpit from an external view, or go from the cockpit
to an external view, hit your assigned key for Refresh Scenery and your plane shouldnt jump. But do this any time you change views from
external to internal or internal to external.

[Georg Oftedal]

Hi,

I forgot to say that this has as far as now happened only in London (with the London airports scenery)

[SaVas]

Georg, is this default scenery? Or is it addon scenery?

Because if I am not mistaken and someone please correct me if Im wrong, I believe it you have an addon scenery, the old scenery
landclass etc is below the add on and there might be a varying degree of difference between the height of the runway/taxiway between
the two causing the rendering to cause the plane to bounce

[Georg Oftedal]

SaVas:

Well, it might be the reason. I have a addon scenery (read: London Airports).
It would be nice with a patch for FsPas. removing som extreme sensitivity.
Another flight where I was flying for 7 hr, after landing, the taxiway was going up and down and I got a crash message (confused )....

[SaVas]

Most of the addon sceneries are very detailed and take even the best graphics cards a moment to render. When I get the bounce, I can
normally tell because the ground textures have that unclear blurred appearance. If i see that, as soon as I do I refresh the scenery. Once
you land try not to switch views. This should help alleviate some of the bounce

[DanSteph]

Sorry no way for FsP to clear that one... the problem come from Fs2004 scenery or contact
point set incorrectly. FsP can only relly on info that Fs2004 tell it it doesn't look himself what happen
so this has to be solved in Fs2004 scenery or aircraft.

At worse you can disable crash detection but finding the scenery/aircraft problem
would be the best solution imho

Hope it explain ?

Dan

[SWAFO]

Was just going to mention what Dan said... everyone seems to be beating me to posting today!

As Dan mentioned, this problem is NOT caused by FSP... it's caused by addon scenery. If you want the problem solved, contact the
maker of the addon scenery. They usually make airports with bad AFCAD files, or just generally hurry through production of their
sceneries. No way are we going to purchase every single payware scenery, and fix the problems with each one. It's not FSP's fault!

[SaVas]

As I said, if you DONT change views when landing your aircraft, or starting at the gate then taking off, chances are your aircraft will NOT
bounce. Bouncing tends to happen when your sim has to rerender the view you are in, i.e. going from internal to external, or external to
internal.

[Georg Oftedal]

Okey, I now know that this is a scenery fault, but what can I do when I have 5-6 scenerys where the FS Passengers crash.
This is getting hopeless and I am wondering to uninstall the Fs Passengers, since I can't make any flight without FS Passengers
crashing.
I have some mesh scenery, and can't uninstall it since I have no backup. Reinstall of FS2004 is not an option.

I hope that the next patch for Fs Passengers will include a option for disabling the crash sensitivity.

[DanSteph]

Georg Oftedal wrote:
I hope that the next patch for Fs Passengers will include a option for disabling the crash sensitivity.

You haver that already: edit "more_option.cfg" enable "DisableForceCrash" to 1
than set Fs2004 to not detect crash

Hope it help ?

Dan

[Passenger57]

SWAFO wrote:

It's not FSP's fault!

It's the asphault. Literally.

Sorry couldn't resist.

Pax57