PMDG 737NGX and FsP crash!

[stuart306]

I hope someone can help.
I am running FSX. I have had FsP for a while now and been using the PMDG 737-800. after around 25hrs (various flights) I can't seem to
get FsP to run with the aircraft anymore! I can run FsP with other A/C no problem but when I start with the 737, after 3-5 seconds,
everything freezes and i get the message "A FATAL ERROR OCCURRED" then crashes to desktop! The PMDG runs fine on its own, so I
am a bit
frustrated! I was getting other FATAL ERROR problems until I read various forums and deleted the UIAutomation.dll files. problems
disappeared but the problem above still happens... Every time!
PLEASE HELP.

System Specs:
Intel i5-2500K CPU 3.3GHz O/C 4.6GHz
8GB RAM
Windows 7 64-Bit
Service Pack 1
NVidia GForce GTX 560Ti

Running FSX
PMDG 737-800
REX 2.0
Flight1 Audio Enviroment
Ultimate Traffic 2 ( tried with this uninstalled)

[timtomairways]

have you done or added anything to FSP PMDG or FSX installation. please say anything, no matter how small

[stuart306]

I reinstalled fsx, PMDG and FSP.
Can't think of anything I changed.

[timtomairways]

was FSp installed first? its best to put FSP on a clean instalation.

there are issues with payware aircraft as complex as PMDG. althoue iv never known them to caues CTDs useally just Cancled flight or point
deductions. trya FSP flight with the default 737 and see if it does anything.

[stuart306]

I uninstalled both PMDG and FSP. Installed FSP then PMDG. Still the same.
Tried the default 737 and that worked perfectly!
I knew about the other problems like fuel and lights etc. Figured out you have to set
the fuel in the PMDG FMC first and it is set automatic into the load page of FSP.
(Not that I'll be using that ever again by the looks of it!)
I think the next stage will have to be a complete re-install of everything.
Don't fancy that!

[whiskey-zulu]

Technically, FSP should be the last addon to be installed when installing add-ons. Otherwise it does not always pick up any other installed aircraft
after it's own installation.

[Joeflyer]

This seems to be similar to the initial issue I had with the MD-11, but the crashes would happen shortly after I would start a flight. What I had to
do was load fuel through the PMDG interface (control panel), run FSX, select which MD-11 I wanted to fly, do the precursor FMC set up, load paxs and
cargo via FsPX, from the PMDG menu within FSX I would then add another 200 pounds of fuel in order to get the fuel message from FSXP and then clear
it. After that point I could finish the FMC set up for the V speeds. That's what cleared up my issue with the MD-11. I don't know if this method would
help for the 737 but it's worth a try. I have not had any other problems with crashes of FSPX or the sim itself. I don't own the 737 or the 747 but am
going to get the 747 soon. I may have to do the same procedure with the Queen, too.

[stuart306]

SOLVED IT!!!!
I deleted the missionpanel.cfg file in the FSX /Gauges folder. Works a treat now. Even spent 20 mins setting up FMC and configuring the A/C
whilst Passengers were boarding.
Thanks for all your replies and help!

Happy again!

[Joeflyer]

Nice! I wonder why the missionpanel.cfg causes issues with the NGX?

[timtomairways]

heres what in the mission panelsCFG

; these global panels can be used by any aircraft. Note that their size_mm's are based on a 1024x768 screen,
; but sizes are really determined by the window_size parameter. Note that the gauge00 size always matches the size_mm
; size, which is all that is required for the panels to occupy the correct size on screen.

[Window Titles]
Window00=Points of Interest
Window01=Timer Window
Window02=Droppable Objects
Window03=Race Map
Window04=Engine Data
Window05=Race Info
Window06=Next Racing Maneuver
Window07=G meter
Window08=Race Penalty
Window09=Countdown

[Window00]
size_mm = 98, 123 ; a basis for the gauge size/positions specified below
window_size = 0.1, 0.16 ; as a percentage of the screen; this allows us to ignore the size of the "main" or first panel loaded.
window_pos = 0.01, 0.03 ; as a percentage of the screen
background_color = 0, 0, 0
visible = 0
zorder = 5 ; larger number -> closer to top
ident = POI_WINDOW
alpha_blend = 0.65 ; 1.0 = opaque
gauge00 = Missions!POI, 0, 0, 98, 123

[Window01]
size_mm = 128, 24
window_size = 0.125, 0.0313
window_pos = 0.44, 0.04
background_color = 0, 0, 0
visible = 0
zorder = 5
ident = TIMER_WINDOW
alpha_blend = 0.65
gauge00 = Missions!Timer, 0,0,128,24

[Window02]
size_mm = 128, 24
window_size = 0.125, 0.0313
window_pos = 0.80, 0.04
background_color = 0, 0, 0
visible = 0
zorder = 5
ident = DROPPABLE_OBJ_WINDOW
alpha_blend = 0.65
gauge00 = Missions!Droppable_objects, 0,0,128,24

[Window03]
size_mm = 200,200
window_size = 0.19,0.260
window_pos = 0.01,0.04
background_color = 0,0,0
visible = 0
zorder = 5
ident = RACEMAP_WINDOW
alpha_blend = 0.75
gauge00 = Missions!racing_aids_map, 0,0,200, 200

[Window04]
size_mm = 154, 59
window_size = 0.150, 0.077
window_pos = 0.03, 0.295
background_color = 0, 0, 0
visible = 0
zorder = 5
ident = RACEMAP_WINDOW
alpha_blend = 0.75
gauge00 = Missions!racing_aids_icons, 0,0,154,59

[Window05]
size_mm = 325, 68
window_size = 0.38, 0.085
window_pos = 0.60, 0.04
background_color = 0, 0, 0
visible = 0
zorder = 5
ident = RACEINFO_WINDOW
alpha_blend = 0.85
gauge00 = Missions!racing_aids_race_info, 0,0,325,68

[Window06]
size_mm = 200,200
window_size = 0.19,0.260
window_pos = 0.4,0.04
background_color = 0, 0, 0
visible = 0
zorder = 5
ident = RACEMAP_WINDOW
alpha_blend = 0.75
gauge00 = Missions!racing_aids_maneuvers, 0,0,200,200

[Window07]
size_mm = 129,129
window_size = 0.19,0.260
position = 2
background_color = 0, 0, 0
visible = 0
zorder = 5
ident = G_METER_WINDOW
alpha_blend = 0.75
gauge00 = Missions!g_meter, 0,0,129,129

[Window08]
size_mm = 745, 120
window_size = 0.65, 0.30
window_pos = 0.0, 0.5
visible = 0
background_color = 0, 0, 0
zorder = 5
ident = RACEPENALTY_WINDOW
alpha_blend = 0.75
gauge00 = Missions!race_penalty, 0, 0

[Window09]
size_mm = 300,300
window_size = 0.5, 0.5
window_pos = 0.32, 0.18
visible = 0
background_color = 0, 0, 0
zorder = 5
ident = COUNTDOWN_WINDOW
alpha_blend = 0.75
gauge00 = Missions!race_countdown, 0, 0

i dont see why it would conflic but im no expert, and i only gave it a glimps.