Eurocopter EC135 P2 - DRF - D-HDRD

[aeromax]

Hello !.

This following Helicopter aircraft.cfg ´ll not work with fspassengers. The internal tool to correct the weight and balance - station.load- of
fspassengers also will not fix that problem. The Helicopter is one of the series made by Heiko Richter and Samy Fay, Franz Haider and Jens Winkler.
Paint by Samy Fay and Tim Schuler. (EC D-HDRB.air). Further using weight & balance of others like MD500, EC145, EC120 also dont´t work. Is there any
Help ?. Would be nice. Thanks, regards, Max.
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[fltsim.0]
title=Deutsche Rettungsflugwacht (German Air Rescue) Eurocopter EC135 P2
sim=EC D-HDRB
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=
kb_checklists=
ui_manufacturer=Eurocopter
ui_type=EC 135 P2
ui_variation=DRF (Deutsche Rettungsflugwacht)
atc_heavy=0
atc_airline=
atc_flight_number=
prop_anim_ratio=1.34
atc_id=D-HDRD
atc_id_color=0000000000
description=Re-mastered Ec 135 T2\n *Alpha effect\n *VC textures\n *External textures\n *Deutsche Rettungsflugwacht (German Air Rescue) scheme
by:\n Samy Fay\n (maestrya72@hotmail.com)\n (March 2006)

[General]
atc_type=Eurocopter
atc_model=EC 135
performance=Performances\n Max cruising speed 257km/h (139kt)\n Max initial rate of climb 1653ft/min.\n Service ceiling 20,000ft.\n Hovering
ceiling out of ground effect\n 13,260ft with Arrius 2B1s\n 13,580ft with PW-206Bs\n Range with standard fuel 745km (402nm)\n ferry range with long
range tank 878km (474nm)\n\nEndurance with standard fuel\n 3hr 40min with Arrius 2B1s\n 3hr 50min with PW-206s\n\nPowerplants\n Two 435kW (583shp)
takeoff rated Turboméca Arrius 2B\n Or two 463kW (621shp) takeoff rated Pratt & Whitney Canada PW-206B\n Turbo shafts driving a four blade main rotor
and 10 blade shrouded Fenestron tail rotor.\n\nWeight\n Empty with Arrius 2B1s 1465kg (3230lb)\n Empty with PW-206s 1480kg (3263lb).\n Max takeoff\n
With Arrius 2B1s 2720kg (5997lb).\n With PW-206s, 2900kg (6393lb) with an external sling load.

[contact_points]
point.0= 3.000, 4.830, 3.330, -5.3865, 1574.800, 1.000, 0.519, 0.000, 0.287, 2.500, 0.605, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.1= 3.000, -3.500, -3.330, -5.5200, 1574.800, 2.000, 0.519, 0.000, 0.396, 2.500, 0.728, 0.000, 0.000, 2.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.2= 3.000, -3.500, 3.330, -5.5200, 1574.800, 0.000, 0.519, 0.000, 0.396, 2.500, 0.728, 0.000, 0.000, 3.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.3= 3.000, 4.830, -3.330, -5.3865, 1574.800, 0.000, 0.519, 0.000, 0.287, 2.500, 0.605, 0.000, 0.000, 1.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.4= 2.000, 0.000, -17.4815, 5.9720, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.5= 2.000, 0.000, 17.4815, 5.9720, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.6= 2.000, -20.5134, 0.000, -2.4642, 787.400, 1.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.7= 2.000, 9.2402, 0.000, -3.3224, 787.400, 2.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000

static_pitch = 0.198
static_cg_height = 4.294

[Views]
; z x y
eyepoint= 4.40, 1.32, 1.10 //(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical distance from reference datum

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing

light.0 = 1, -21.94, 0, 7.07, fx_beacon
light.1 = 2, -3.68, 2.82, -0.05, fx_strobe
light.2 = 2, -3.68, -2.89, -0.05, fx_strobe
light.3 = 3, -15.91, -4.31, 0.74, fx_navred
light.4 = 3, -15.83, 4.31, 0.74, fx_navgre
light.5 = 3, -24.36, 0, 6.83, fx_navwhi
light.6 = 4, 4.82, 0, 1.27, fx_vclight

[fuel]
RightMain= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 14.503, 0.694
external1= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 148.148, 1.123
LeftMain= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 14.503, 0.694
fuel_type=2.000000
number_of_tank_selectors=1
electric_pump=0

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type = 5
Engine.0 = -1.000, -1.300, 2.600
fuel_flow_scalar=5.000000
min_throttle_limit=0.000000

[jet_engine]
thrust_scalar=2.001

[flight_tuning]
cruise_lift_scalar=1.000
pitch_stability=1.000
roll_stability=1.000
yaw_stability=1.000
parasite_drag_scalar=1.000
induced_drag_scalar=1.000
elevator_effectiveness=1.000
aileron_effectiveness=1.000
rudder_effectiveness=1.000

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
reference_datum_position= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
empty_weight_CG_position= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
max_number_of_stations=50
station_load.0=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
empty_weight= 1500.000
empty_weight_roll_MOI= 5000.000
empty_weight_pitch_MOI= 8000.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI= 10000.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI= 0.000
max_gross_weight= 3200.000
CG_forward_limit= 0.000
CG_aft_limit= 1.000

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
max_gross_weight = 6250.000
empty_weight = 4100.000

reference_datum_position = 0.0000, 0.0000, 0.0000 // (feet) distance from FlightSim Reference position: (1/4 chord, centerline, waterline)
empty_weight_CG_position = 0.000, 0.000, 0.000

max_number_of_stations =50

station_load.0 =0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
station_load.1 = 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 //Co-Pilot Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)


;Moments of Inertia
empty_weight_pitch_MOI = 6000.000
empty_weight_roll_MOI = 4000.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 10000.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0.000
CG_forward_limit= 0.000
CG_aft_limit= 1.000

[turboprop_engine]
power_scalar = 1.0

[propeller]
thrust_scalar = 1.0
propeller_type=1
propeller_diameter=6.883000
propeller_blades=2
propeller_moi=5.706520
beta_max=0.000000
beta_min=15.000000
min_gov_rpm=0.000000
prop_tc=0.100000
gear_reduction_ratio=1.000000
fixed_pitch_beta=20.000000
low_speed_theory_limit=80.000000
prop_sync_available=0
prop_deice_available=0
prop_feathering_available=0
prop_auto_feathering_available=0
min_rpm_for_feather=0.000000
beta_feather=0.000000
power_absorbed_cf=0.000000
defeathering_accumulators_available=0
prop_reverse_available=0.000000
minimum_on_ground_beta=0.000000
minimum_reverse_beta=0.000000

[Helicopter]
low_realism_stability_scale = 1.0, 1.0, 1.0 //Pitch , Bank, Yaw Scalars on Stability in Low Realism Settings

[electrical]
;BusType, MaxAmpLoad, MinVoltage BusTypes:0=MainBus,1=AvionicsBus,2=BatteryBus,3=HotBatteryBus,4-7=Generator/AlternatorBus(1-4)
max_battery_voltage=24.0 //Battery Voltage - fully charged
generator_alternator_voltage=28.0 //Alternator/Aenerator Voltage
max_generator_alternator_amps=60

autopilot = 0, 5 , 17.0
avionics_bus = 0, 10, 17.0
avionics = 1, 5 , 17.0
pitot_heat = 0, 2 , 17.0
additional_system = 0, 20, 17.0
marker_beacon = 1, 2 , 17.0
gear_warning = 0, 2 , 17.0
fuel_pump = 0, 5 , 17.0
starter1 = 0, 20, 17.0
light_nav = 0, 5 , 17.0
light_beacon = 0, 5 , 17.0
light_landing = 0, 5 , 17.0
light_taxi = 0, 5 , 17.0
light_strobe = 0, 5 , 17.0
light_panel = 0, 5 , 17.0



//0 Class <0=none,1=wheel, 2=scrape, 3=skid>
//1 Longitudinal Position (feet)
//2 Lateral Position (feet)
//3 Vertical Position (feet)
//4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)
//5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)
//6 Wheel Radius (feet)
//7 Steer Angle (degrees)
//8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid)
//9 Max/Static Compression Ratio
//10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)
//11 Extension Time (seconds)
//12 Retraction Time (seconds)
//13 Sound Type
//14 Airspeed limit for retraction (KIAS)
//15 Airspeed that gear gets damage at (KIAS)

[Radios]
// Radio Type = availiable, standby frequency, has glide slope
Audio.1 = 1
Com.1 = 1, 0
Com.2 = 0, 1
Nav.1 = 1, 0, 1
Nav.2 = 1, 0, 0
Adf.1 = 1
Transponder.1 = 1
Marker.1 = 1

[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed = 0.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
full_flaps_stall_speed = 0.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
cruise_speed = 139.0 //Knots True (KTAS)
max_indicated_speed=150.000000

[direction_indicators]
direction_indicator.0=3,0

[EFFECTS]
wake=fx_wake
water=fx_spray
dirt=fx_tchdrt
concrete=fx_sparks

[exits]
number_of_exits=2
exit_rate.0=0.4
exit_rate.1=0.4

[keyboard_response]
//Breakpoint speeds (knots) on the keyboard increments of control surfaces.
//Speed at which the incremenet is reduced to 1/2 and 1/8 respectively.
//NOTE: These map to cyclic (fore/aft), cyclic (left/right), and anti-torque
elevator = 100, 180
aileron = 200, 1000
rudder = 200, 1000

[autopilot]
autopilot_available=1
flight_director_available=1
default_vertical_speed=0.001
autothrottle_available=1
pitch_takeoff_ga=0.000000
autothrottle_arming_required=1
autothrottle_takeoff_ga=0
autothrottle_max_rpm=90.000000
max_pitch=10.000000
max_pitch_acceleration=1.000000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.500000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.000000
max_bank=25.000000
max_bank_acceleration=1.800000
max_bank_velocity=3.000000
max_throttle_rate=0.100000
nav_proportional_control=9.000000
nav_integrator_control=0.250000
nav_derivative_control=0.000000
nav_integrator_boundary=2.500000
nav_derivative_boundary=0.000000
gs_proportional_control=9.520000
gs_integrator_control=0.260000
gs_derivative_control=0.000000
gs_integrator_boundary=0.700000
gs_derivative_boundary=0.000000
yaw_damper_gain=0.000000

[airplane_geometry]
wing_area=170.000000
wing_span=35.000000
wing_root_chord=5.000000
wing_dihedral=6.998291
wing_incidence=1.499634
wing_twist=-0.999756
oswald_efficiency_factor=0.781155
wing_winglets_flag=0
wing_sweep=0.000000
wing_pos_apex_lon=1.215000
wing_pos_apex_vert=0.000000
htail_area=32.000000
htail_span=12.833333
htail_pos_lon=-13.000000
htail_pos_vert=0.000000
htail_incidence=2.999268
htail_sweep=0.000000
vtail_area=16.000000
vtail_span=4.560702
vtail_sweep=0.000000
vtail_pos_lon=-12.166667
vtail_pos_vert=2.500000
elevator_area=32.000000
aileron_area=12.800000
rudder_area=3.500000
elevator_up_limit=10.999988
elevator_down_limit=6.999997
aileron_up_limit=30.000070
aileron_down_limit=12.501939
rudder_limit=26.997771
elevator_trim_limit=12.000028
spoiler_limit=0.000000
spoilerons_available=0
aileron_to_spoileron_gain=0.000000
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons=0.000000
min_flaps_for_spoilerons=0.000000

[TailHook]
tailhook_length=4 ;(feet)
tailhook_position=0.0, 0.0, 0.0 ;(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum
cable_force_adjust=1.0
tailhook_rate=0.002

[SMOKESYSTEM]
smoke.0=0.00, -8.00, 2.50, fx_EC135
smoke.1=0.00, -8.00, -2.50, fx_EC135

[Flaps.0]
type=1
span-outboard=0.500000
extending-time=4.000000
system_type=3
flaps-position.0=0.000000,0.000000
flaps-position.1=13.333301,0.000000
flaps-position.2=26.666602,0.000000
flaps-position.3=39.999903,0.000000

[brakes]
parking_brake = 1 //Parking brake available
toe_brakes_scale = 600.0 //Brake scalar

[hydraulic_system]
normal_pressure=0.000000

[attitude_indicators]
attitude_indicator.0=1

[turn_indicators]
turn_indicator.0=1,0

[poden]

Looks like there are two [WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE] tags. Try just taking the 2nd one out and removing the following:

reference_datum_position = 0.0000, 0.0000, 0.0000 // (feet) distance from FlightSim Reference position: (1/4 chord, centerline, waterline)
empty_weight_CG_position = 0.000, 0.000, 0.000

max_number_of_stations =50

station_load.0 =0.000000,0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
station_load.1 = 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0 //Co-Pilot Weight (lbs), longitudinal, lateral, vertical positions from datum (feet)


Be sure to work out which max_gross_weight and empty_weight entries are correct, and get rid of the the other ones.

Don't know if this will fix it, but its probably worth a try. Good luck with this one.





Post Edited ( 12-13-09 04:49 )

[aeromax]

Dear "poden",

thanks for information !!. So ´ll try it to fix that problem -this way-. Later on ´ll also give an answer about happening. Before has been changed the
weight & balance complete. I used by copy and paste by w&b from EC120,EC145,MD500, but maybe there is a kind of problem with EC D-HDRB.air or other
parts of aircraft.cfg. because the helicopter want lift or is defenetly to slow with cruise powersetting. So´ll try your points to fix it. THANKS, ´ll
let you know.

best regards

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So, i tried that way,

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
max_gross_weight = 6250.000
empty_weight = 4100.000

;Moments of Inertia
empty_weight_pitch_MOI = 6000.000
empty_weight_roll_MOI = 4000.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 10000.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0.000
CG_forward_limit= 0.000
CG_aft_limit= 1.000
reference_datum_position=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000
empty_weight_CG_position=0.000000,0.000000,0.000000

and the Helicopter wan´t lift/ takeOff by full-power.

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other attemp by using fsp-internal-correct-tool:

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
reference_datum_position= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
max_number_of_stations = 50
station_load.0 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.1 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.2 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.3 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.4 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.5 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
station_load.6 = "0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, FsStation"
empty_weight_CG_position= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000

empty_weight= 1500.000
empty_weight_roll_MOI= 5000.000
empty_weight_pitch_MOI= 8000.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI= 10000.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI= 0.000
max_gross_weight= 3200.000
CG_forward_limit= 0.000
CG_aft_limit= 1.000

;Moments of Inertia
empty_weight_pitch_MOI = 6000.000
empty_weight_roll_MOI = 4000.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 10000.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0.000
CG_forward_limit= 0.000
CG_aft_limit= 1.000
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now that comes up: (and that are not the correct weights)

Pilot Datasheet of FSP (Load Manifest)
max: 3 passengers (load 2 pax); max TO weight: 1451kg; empty weight: 680kg; max fuel: 538kg

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So, no idea to fix it.

Thanks alot



Post Edited ( 12-13-09 23:43 )

[aeromax]

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if i change then that:

empty_weight= 1500.000 to empty_weight= 4100.000 (as its real/ in lbs)

and that:

max_gross_weight= 3200.000 to max_gross_weight= 6250.000

the helicopter wan´t lift again by full thrust !.

so whatever.... ! Greetings.

[poden]

The page on the EC-135 on Wikipedia shows 1404 KG (3208 lbs) empty, and 1404 KG (3208 lbs) useful load. It could be that the engine data is somehow
wrong as well. I'm not sure how much of this aircraft.cfg file is correct.

[gbapache]

I have never had a problem with a Heiko R. bird. Where did you download it from. Hovercontrol.com has never let me down for his work.

[aeromax]

Dear gbapache,

don´t know even i got this one- long time ago and re- activated !. if you haven´t a problem with aircraft.cfg - would it be possible for you, to post
it like the first posting above ?. maybe it ´ll work. Otherwise ´ll download it from Hovercontrol.com !.Thanks

Regards ;-)