Cessna Flap Problems

[N176DL]

OK, I know this has happend to most people who fly the cessna, when you take off your supposed to have no flaps put down(what i know).
But on my flight report it says flap things, so i put out the first pair of flpas and the same thing happens, it also happend on the Beech
Baron 58, and most other prop. planes

[the_nick]

normal when you put 1 position for flaps and keep it atleast till 210ft then everything should be ok ( cessna's they use their flaps when
they take-off from a grass runway that it's wet and that they are loaded with some passengers to get faster lift )

[Ceemosp]

Is 210ft AGL the trigger altitude for the take-off without flaps penalty ?

I normally start to retract my flaps around the 1000ft AGL but as I am not flying a Cessna or similar but a twin turboprop this may be a
different story.

Greetz Carsten

[Drew]

Around that alt, i usually leave it till at least 300

[N176DL]

Thanks, ill try that(i always retracted my flaps after takeoff, not at 300ft)

[crowebird]

how soon after takeoff? Techinally if you retract to soon you will lose lift, if at lower speeds, and run the risk of falling to the surface again.

[Kpeters]

Technically it should be 1000ft on larger aircraft 300-400ft will do on smaller ones I believe.

[Ceemosp]

crowebird wrote:
how soon after takeoff? Techinally if you retract to soon you will lose lift, if at lower speeds, and run the risk of falling to the surface again.

Same stuff with the gear...
I personally witnessed a crash back to the runway because the pilot 'pulled' the gear away under the belly (literally) when he did not even
had the faintest indication of positive rate of climb. A windgust was all it took to get him back on the runway.
I may have to mention that the plane was a Baron and it happened around 2500ft of a 10.000ft runway.......
How dumb can one be.......

Greetz Carsten