PITOT Heat and Carburettor Air Heat

[littleMax]

Hi,

i just aborted a flight over the atlantic caus i had a strange problem. (And a friend called for some beers and stuff )

I took of with my Conni (L1049) at CYYT (Canada) the weather wasnt that nice but no issue, some time after takeoff i noticed a drop on the IAS.... oh
sh** forgot the Pitot heat -.-
-> Turned it on -> everything fine again.

In flight i accidently turned off the Carburettor Air Heat of engine 4 and so a big drop at the fuel flow and the power, i realy thought: 'today im
with stupid. Today im with me!'
Even after i turned Carburettor Air Heat on again the situation stayed the same, cause i never had that situation i tried some thing:
- fuel cut of (mixture)
- restart of engine
- fuel cut of (tanks-engine)
- restart
After the last action, the fuel flow came back again and also the power.

Now my questions, is that normal or:
a. Did the AeroPlaneHeaven Team something wrong (devs of the Conni Pro)?
b. Is this behaviour the cause the interaction with FSP?

Second one, Do i get a peneltay for this things?
1. Pitot Heat not on before i noticed the IAS loss
2. turning off Carburettor Air Heat in flight
3. restarting the enigne after fuel cut off?

Did i had to declare an emergency, if yes, when?

Greats
Max

(Bad english maybe, cause im in a hurry and from germany X-D)

[Joeflyer]

FsP does not recognize any failures from aircraft developers or inadvertently shutting down an engine in flight. I've done that before but got the
engine started and all was well. I wouldn't declare an emergency unless FsP caused the failure. You'll be penalized if you do.
I don't know much about the Connie and carb heat, so maybe that has to stay on at all times since it typically flew at higher altitudes...I do not
know. I do know that when flying older Cessnas, it was always a good idea to turn on carb heat when pulling the power below a certain RPM since ice
can build up in the carburetor. Maybe the Connie is the same way.

[littleMax]

Ok FSP doesnt recognize failures that are not produzed by it self.

But allover that was not really a failure. This happened after wrong operation of the airplane and so the engine shut down. FsP recognizes also the
opening of a door in flight comes to an emergency, why not th shutting down of an engine?

[drgullen]

You might get a penalty for lack of Pitot heat if you were throttling up to full power for example and you passed 250 knots prior to climbing above
10,000 feet.

I have a weird issue with various planes where that happens to me even with pitot on. I usually set the AP SPD to 225 knots during my inital climb.
Occasionally, FS9 will act as if my pitot is off when it is really on and unless I'm quick and disengage the SPD from the AP, the plane will throttle
to max because it thinks the SPD is 0.0. After a few seconds, the problem fixes itself but without manual intervention, the KIAS will be well over
300 knots, tripping the >250kts penalty.

I never found a solution, so I just disabled that penalty.

[littleMax]

Ok thats a problem that can not happen to me. Cause im flying the old Conni -> no throttle control via AP

And my concern was the shut down of an egine, normaly no good idea druing flight, like opening the door.

[Capt. Wotan]

It's true that FSP isn't able to record or deal with aircraft failures caused by the aircraft developer. However just recently i purchased the Katana
4x and had an engine failure, caused by me killing the engine with carb heat. FSP did notice this and mention that i should disable failures from
other aircraft. I only wish that the program was more customisable, it wouldn't be hard to have an option indicating failure caused outside of FSP!!

[whiskey-zulu]

Easy in theory to have an option to detect failures from outside FSP, yes, easy to impliment, probably not given the number of different developers
out there who all use different programming and how those interact with FS and FSP.

[littleMax]

Yeah i understand the thing with the failures.

But Shutting down an engine ist not exactly a failure that couldn't be wrongly detected. I mean its due missoperating, again the example of opnening a
door.

I know its hard to take non standard failure in FSP that are not FSP made. But all things that can happen in a standard FSX/FS9 aircarft should be
noticed by FSX, even if its an non standard AC.
And the Carburettor Air Heat also exisits also in standard ACs.

[whiskey-zulu]

FS9 and FSX are two different programs that were built in different ways, so there are again going to be aspects where FS9 aircraft in FSX don't talk
to FSX they way they would do to FS9.

[littleMax]

Thats why you/we have FsP and FsPx

[Leftcoaster]

Now my questions, is that normal or:
a. Did the AeroPlaneHeaven Team something wrong (devs of the Conni Pro)?

Do not know who the AeroPlaneHeaven team are but the R-3350 engines fitted to virtually all Connies were fuel injected and so had no
carburator heaters fitted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_R-33...ex-Cyclone

http://www.superconstellation.org/Techni...or-en.html

A superb freeware Connie series with VC and extensive documentation is available here:

http://www.calclassic.com/sconnie.htm

[Tracker801]

As with all Connie types, always keep all heaters you have on......
Yesterday I was lucky to fly the museum L749... and procedures are to set them all to ON. Mentioned in all type AOMs as well.