20-11-2005, 02:47 PM
I've had it with MS ATC. Today was the last straw.
It was 9PM and I was using the level-d 767 going from Toronto to Quebec city. It was night, very snowy, extremely limited visability. I'm
about 50NM from Quebec City Airport and the airport is to my left. "Air Canada 181 heavy, Turn RIGHT heading XXX cleared runway XX
descend and maintain 2000 until ILS etc etc ........." I'm thinking "OK, it made a mistake obviously as the heading it gave me takes me
directly away from the airport. I ignore its instructions and decide my own heading. Again visability is very very poor with heavy snow and
its night. Decide on an autolanding as I have never had visibility this bad, ever. (I know I should of cancelled) Anyways... Things APPEAR
to be going well. One-thousand, five-hundred, etc etc...... and when I hear the callout "ten" ATC says "Air Canada 181 heavy, go around"
obviously im angry, but I can't see the runway so rather than risk a crash I abort. I was pretty annoyed at TEN feet it told me to go around.
Anyways it then says "Turn left heading XX climb and maintain 15,000" I'm thinking "Hmm....... thats a little high for a go around" but I
listen to it again......... 5 minutes pass and no further instructions. 10 minutes, then 15 minutes, until its 30 minutes! Then I hear "Air
Canada 181 heavy contact Toronto center". "Wow" I'm thinking. Finally they remember me. I'm going to get a command to turn around. I
wait another 10 minutes and nothing. I'm thinking "Forget this, I'm going back myself this is ridiculous"
When I finally get back on the glideslope for the previously assigned runway ATC wakes up and gives me clearance again. Theres still
heavy snow and poor visibility. So I do the autoland. I touch down great. I'm thinking "A should be 1 hour flight is almost 3 hours now,
finally its over" But........ MS ATC has another surprise for me. As soon as the nose touches down and I can see the rest of the runway I
see a caravan on the opposite end of the runway starting its takeoff. AFTER IM ON THE GROUND and at about 100KTS I hear "Air
Canada 181 Go Around" I put full power instinctively even before ATC said this as soon as I saw the Caravan. I don't know how but I make
it off the ground before I have a runway crash on the ground. At this point im very angry at MS ATC! Then because I overexceeded the
engines I have a right engine fire! (remember I am using the Level-d) After about 2 MORE attempted landings I finally land safely and of
course get no points!! (not blaming FSP, I know better )
This has to be the single worst session of the MS ATC yet for me. They were VERY unprofessional! AVOID QUEBEC CITY ATC AT ALL
COSTS! If MSATC were competant none of this would of ever happened. I don't care how much it costs I will be buying Radar 4 or
whatever its called on December 10th. (Yes I know VATSIM I would never have this problem)
Just wanted to tell you what happened as I never had so many bad ATC as this flight!
Anyways yes I am a native speaker of english, just I am very tired at the moment so excuse my writing.
Perhaps if you want you can share your horror MS ATC stories. hehehe
Post Edited ( 11-20-05 14:50 )
It was 9PM and I was using the level-d 767 going from Toronto to Quebec city. It was night, very snowy, extremely limited visability. I'm
about 50NM from Quebec City Airport and the airport is to my left. "Air Canada 181 heavy, Turn RIGHT heading XXX cleared runway XX
descend and maintain 2000 until ILS etc etc ........." I'm thinking "OK, it made a mistake obviously as the heading it gave me takes me
directly away from the airport. I ignore its instructions and decide my own heading. Again visability is very very poor with heavy snow and
its night. Decide on an autolanding as I have never had visibility this bad, ever. (I know I should of cancelled) Anyways... Things APPEAR
to be going well. One-thousand, five-hundred, etc etc...... and when I hear the callout "ten" ATC says "Air Canada 181 heavy, go around"
obviously im angry, but I can't see the runway so rather than risk a crash I abort. I was pretty annoyed at TEN feet it told me to go around.
Anyways it then says "Turn left heading XX climb and maintain 15,000" I'm thinking "Hmm....... thats a little high for a go around" but I
listen to it again......... 5 minutes pass and no further instructions. 10 minutes, then 15 minutes, until its 30 minutes! Then I hear "Air
Canada 181 heavy contact Toronto center". "Wow" I'm thinking. Finally they remember me. I'm going to get a command to turn around. I
wait another 10 minutes and nothing. I'm thinking "Forget this, I'm going back myself this is ridiculous"
When I finally get back on the glideslope for the previously assigned runway ATC wakes up and gives me clearance again. Theres still
heavy snow and poor visibility. So I do the autoland. I touch down great. I'm thinking "A should be 1 hour flight is almost 3 hours now,
finally its over" But........ MS ATC has another surprise for me. As soon as the nose touches down and I can see the rest of the runway I
see a caravan on the opposite end of the runway starting its takeoff. AFTER IM ON THE GROUND and at about 100KTS I hear "Air
Canada 181 Go Around" I put full power instinctively even before ATC said this as soon as I saw the Caravan. I don't know how but I make
it off the ground before I have a runway crash on the ground. At this point im very angry at MS ATC! Then because I overexceeded the
engines I have a right engine fire! (remember I am using the Level-d) After about 2 MORE attempted landings I finally land safely and of
course get no points!! (not blaming FSP, I know better )
This has to be the single worst session of the MS ATC yet for me. They were VERY unprofessional! AVOID QUEBEC CITY ATC AT ALL
COSTS! If MSATC were competant none of this would of ever happened. I don't care how much it costs I will be buying Radar 4 or
whatever its called on December 10th. (Yes I know VATSIM I would never have this problem)
Just wanted to tell you what happened as I never had so many bad ATC as this flight!
Anyways yes I am a native speaker of english, just I am very tired at the moment so excuse my writing.
Perhaps if you want you can share your horror MS ATC stories. hehehe
Post Edited ( 11-20-05 14:50 )