| PMDG NGX Released |
Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend  | Date 08-07-11 01:45 |
finally.
but before people start jumping around like a cricket at a bull frog family reunion about how it was worth the wait. i seem to recall seeing the in
devolpment sticker on the NGX web page almost 6 years ago. or probly more i actually lost count.
and i dont think anything is worth a 6 year wait. not even popyes Chicken.
personally ill get the Ifly 737Ng. they release the FSX vertion about 6 months after the release of the FS9. its just as good as PMDG. and probly
cheaper.
and i made that decetion when PMDG released that thread where they stoped short of telling everyone to F-Off about asking for a release date. not
that i really blame them for that. but it was kinda rude all things considering (see above line of words)
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Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 08-07-11 01:49 |
i just check the price. Ifly is $15 cheaper
not that i plan on buying ither anytime soon. more important things to worry about. the default 737 (heavlyy modified0 serves me just as well
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| Re: PMDG NGX Released |
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Author: Joeflyer 7790 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 08-07-11 15:53 |
Since I'm a new owner of the iFly 737 NG, I can attest that this is a sweeeeet airplane. No need for me to even consider the PMDG version.
Besides, PMDG's block type of purchasing stinks. Plus, the aircraft's VC looks exactly like iFly's. I paid $54 US for the complete 737 package, so I'm not even about to consider PMDG for any other purchases except for the MD-11 and Jetstream.
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Author: gbapache 1551 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 08-07-11 19:34 |
What do you mean by " Block type of purchasing"? 
If it's stupid, but it works, it isn't stupid.
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Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 08-08-11 02:39 |
he means this
From PMDG's website
"This package contains ONLY the 737-800/900 winglet/non-winglet models including the Virtual Cockpit, Boeing Manuals, PMDG NGX Tutorial and
the PMDG livery manager.
The 737-600/700 models are an expansion to the base package and will be available soon."
verses Ifly's
"This includes the 737NG 600, 700, 800, and 900, plus the BBJ, BBJ2, and BBJ3"
forgive me for sounding overly Vulcan but it is not logical to buy software that includes only 2 aircraft (the -800,-900) for $70. then probly another $20-
$50 down the rode for the rest. verses software that includes all 737 NG modles plus the BBj modles for only $55. Especially when they are both of
equal quality
why would they even think thats okay after a 6 year wait.
yep PMDG can suck on a APU exaust pipe
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Author: Wreck1463 41 Posts Status: Student pilot | Date 08-09-11 04:44 |
I hate to even ask, since I don't own either aircraft (yet), but how can you say they are the same quality when you don't own PMDG's product? Just
asking.
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Author: gbapache 1551 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 08-09-11 15:51 |
There are magazines devoted to flight simming, also you can look at different products on line and just talking to people here you get a
good idea of what is good and what's bad.
If it's stupid, but it works, it isn't stupid.
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Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 08-09-11 16:33 |
thire web pages list the feachure os each. as well as screen shots. i never really trustedd eviews thoue, but some people use them as well.
Ex both aircraft claim to have a simulated IRS, FMS. and i belive a HUD to
as far as visual qualtiy. they both apper equal in screen shots. PMDG went for a used aircraft look so its got scratches dents and other stuff
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Author: EdwardS 19 Posts Status: Young recruit | Date 08-09-11 22:36 |
Just my two cents worth; however, if you limit the comparison of the iFly and PMDG to visual model alone the PMDG still wins. There are
finger prints and smudge marks on the displays, you can zoom in to mere fractions of an inch from the surface of any panel and it as clear as
when you are zoomed out. Try looking over at the AvSim forums and you will see lots of pics. However, in the end the iFly and PMDG should
not be compared. One [iFly] is an addon for FSX and the other [PMDG] is pretty much its own sim that FSX runs on. It's the additional abilities
such as changing my MCP from Honeywell to Collins while cruising at FL310 or any number of the dozens and dozens of other features I can
customize that sets the two apart. There are literally so many things the PMDG can do that they can't reasonably be named off here. As one
last example I can fly a 737NGX and send one small file to anyone who can pick up the plane in the cockpit/maintenance condition I left it in
and fly off with it. All the while that airframe will continue to accumulate hours and wear and tear. I'm pretty sure that can't be done with the iFly.
That feature changes the very nature of being in a VA now that I can actually share my plane.
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Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 08-09-11 23:11 |
but of all the bells and wisels that the PMDG has. is it worth $70 if you only getting 2 planes. Vs one thay may not have the Hand your plane to the
next crew feature or the figer prints (both of wich for me are a turnoff)
and remember visual quality comes at a prce. the main thing keeping me from getting ither aircraft is my PC. theres no way i can run ither one. but
when it comes time to get one. i would still go with Ifly. its the logical choice
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Author: EdwardS 19 Posts Status: Young recruit | Date 08-10-11 07:54 |
Is the plane worth the money? Yes! Is that because of the two features I mentioned and you pointed out aren't appealing to you? No, not at all.
Is it because of all the bells and whistles? Again no not at all. The plane is worth it because it redefines what it means to flight sim. It
introduces more accurate fuel consumption, flight dynamics, maintenance requirements, failures, VNAV calculations, and countless upon
countless other features that are way beyond the scope of "bells and whistles". If drawing closer to the real thing is what you sim for then this
plane is a must have. The only possible way to understand how much of a game changer, no pun intended, this is, is to experience it first
hand. There is no way to compare the iFly and the PMDG. As I said one is an addon for FSX. The other is it's own Sim. It's so good I don't see
how I will be able to return to any of my other planes without feeling like they are poor quality cartoon games one of my kids would fool with.
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Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 08-10-11 23:18 |
At thire core they are both 737 add-on for FSX, wich means it is 100% possible to compare them to FS.
in fact if someone gives me $150 i will buy both and write a comparison review about them right now. and i have a feeling that my assumption (based
on logic) are correct
they are add-on aircraft wich means.
they have to have
1, a modle
2 sound
3 panle
4 textures (atleast 1)
5 A CFG
6 A AIR file
you can include anything else you want side programes to to add crying babies. exact payload editors.
bottom line they are still FS addons the sim will be lokeing at the 6 things mentioned above. it dosent care about anything else
im not getting drawn into a point counter point argument on this fourm, its not the place.
I will end with the following statement. money is tight, im not spending $70 on a 737ng add-on thats only 2 planes. when there is a perfectly good one
(that in my openion is of equal qualtiy) for $15 cheaper and includes all 737 NG modles.
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| Re: PMDG NGX Released |
Author: airmiles 329 Posts Status: Astronaut  | Date 08-13-11 20:05 |
Ok from me, I have them both and to be honest I feel ripped off by PM** the iF** I think is the better of the two; do not understand what all the
hype was about as a fan of PM** aircraft this is not as good as the MD-11 of 747.
To each their own but that is my opinion, just wish PM** had a 30 day refund policy like Flight1 have.
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Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 08-14-11 05:28 |
airmiles wrote:
Ok from me, I have them both and to be honest I feel ripped off by PM** the iF** I think is the better of the two; do not understand what all the
hype was about as a fan of PM** aircraft this is not as good as the MD-11 of 747.
To each their own but that is my opinion, just wish PM** had a 30 day refund policy like Flight1 have.
Pete
this is why i never fall into hype. and dont get exited about stuff anymore. Its just logical to be pesimistic, so im a pesimist.
this is the way i think. Everything and everybody is pure ****, until it can be proven otherwise. they actualy make certificates for that to. can you belive
that 
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Author: airmiles 329 Posts Status: Astronaut | Date 08-15-11 17:43 |
airmiles wrote:
Ok from me, I have them both and to be honest I feel ripped off by PM** the iF** I think is the better of the two; do not understand what all the
hype was about as a fan of PM** aircraft this is not as good as the MD-11 of 747.
To each their own but that is my opinion, just wish PM** had a 30 day refund policy like Flight1 have.
Pete
Just to clarify, if the iFly was not released I would have been more than happy with the PMDG NGX, it is an excellent aircraft and very well put
together with all systems fully modeled. Personal preference is for the iFly and much of that comes down to cost, MY feeling is
the difference in price is not warranted.As I say this is just my view and both aircraft are excellent.
Pete
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Author: Eraser74 1 Posts Status: Young recruit | Date 08-22-11 09:19 |
One cannot compare iFly with PMDG....PMDG is years ahead in development, iFly is never able to catch up with them.
The NGX is so much more indepth than the iFly can ever hope to achieve. Itīs a budget simulation, the iFly one, but that is all that is has going for
it. The simulation is far better with PMDG, the visuals cannot be compared, the iFly one looks like a good freeware 737 in comparison.
If one just wants to fly something that looks like a 737 then he is good with the iFly one....however, if one wants to experience a 737 he needs PMDG.
That is it.
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Author: Joeflyer 7790 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 08-23-11 20:12 |
Eraser74 wrote:
One cannot compare iFly with PMDG....PMDG is years ahead in development, iFly is never able to catch up with them.
The NGX is so much more indepth than the iFly can ever hope to achieve. Itīs a budget simulation, the iFly one, but that is all that is has going for
it. The simulation is far better with PMDG, the visuals cannot be compared, the iFly one looks like a good freeware 737 in comparison.
If one just wants to fly something that looks like a 737 then he is good with the iFly one....however, if one wants to experience a 737 he needs PMDG.
That is it.
You sure poked your foot in the mouth on this comparison. Looks like a good freeware?? If that was the case, I sure wouldn't have bothered purchasing
the iFly 737. I don't know of any freeware 737 aircraft that has an awesome VC like this one and the functionality to boot. I can't say that the PMDG
one is YEARS ahead of iFly's version. That might be stretching quite a bit, but that's your opinion. I had the PMDG's FS9 737 and can definitely say
that one had freeware quality VC textures and never liked it. Fact is, iFly and PMDG did an outstanding job on their respective 737 NGs for FSX, but
like I mentioned in an earlier post, I do not like the block system PMDG uses for purchasing the 737. Again, that's a preference of mine....enough so
that it killed any prospect of me buying PMDG's version.
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| Re: PMDG NGX Released |
Author: bigshot724 68 Posts Status: Pilot near incorporation  | Date 12-22-11 08:51 |
I recently bought PMDG NGX and it took quite some time to finally come to the decision to buy it (not knowing if it's worth it or not), but hey i
said why not. I like it but don't love it.
My problem: I have lots of Saitek hardward and almost none of it works with pmdg, so what's the point of having a VC in my room now? it's
basically been reduced to the yoke, pedals, and throttle. Although this is the basics and probably wouldn't be a big problem, to me it is. So
after fiddling with NGX (and after hours of not knowing how to start the dang engines...), I decided to just go back to DVA's 738.
NGX worth the purchase? Depends on the simmer. If you want the 100% accurate details and systems, then get it. If you prefer
something that's not as complex with systems and details and you just want to fly, get iFly or some freeware.
That's my experience with it. Had I known all my hardware would not work with NGX, I would not have gotten it. However, FSX and DVA
have too simple of 738s. So maybe I'll try the iFly. 
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Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 12-22-11 19:21 |
Saitek hardware is more geard tword the GA planes. althoue you can configure them to work with 737s like you said its not the same.
DVA uses the POSKY 737 wich is basicly the default. maby it looks better but in my openion the default is better than POSKYs.
i would recommend the ifly any day. caues looking at it on web pages, pics, videos, and to a much lesser extent reviews. they seem to both be
acurate. PMDG does have better texture quality thoue. but thats all its got going for it. really. Both have detailed system modleing.
Ifly includs the entire 737NG line. Vs PMDG includs only the 800/900 with the 600/700 as a seperate purchase. and Eventually (if not already ) the
BBJ's. and Ifly is alot cheaper. (cheaper in a good way. meaning its a reasonable price).
I know at launge the PMDG NGX was like $70. it may have gone down or come up since i dont know (nor care). Theres alot i can do with $70. and ill
just leave it at that.
To anyone else reading this thread. Please dont post a response. and just let this Die.
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