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USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: Launchbury      582 Posts  Status: Instructor Astronaut    Date    01-15-09 23:56

All over the news and airliners.net. A320 hit a flock of birds on takeoff, lost both engines. Ditched in the aircraft in the Hudson River,
everyone safe. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1549/history/20090115/2004Z/KLGA/KLGA

Positively spectacular end to a hairy situation.


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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: Sean_EMD      5 Posts  Status: Young recruit Date    01-16-09 00:55

I'll drink to that! It's nice to see some good news for a change.
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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: pagir      1583 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    01-16-09 03:17

Really spectacular...

It can be reproduced with FsPX ;)


http://www.fspassengers.com/?action=faq
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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: Valoran      809 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    01-16-09 04:19

I forget, can you ditch safely in FSPX or does it have to be a land landing?


Charlie don't surf!

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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: pagir      1583 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    01-16-09 05:25

Yes, you can ditch in water too ;)


http://www.fspassengers.com/?action=faq
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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: DSW334      1296 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    01-16-09 07:49

Wow.. truly amazing. Everyone walked (or swimmed) away safely. The pilots and crew did an amazing job.



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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: airmiles      329 Posts  Status: Astronaut    Date    01-16-09 08:29

Hat off to the Pilot and crew great job to get everyone off safely with only a few minor injuries :applause:
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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: JeffMcBride      149 Posts  Status: Forum Moderator    Date    01-16-09 17:56

The pilot should be commended. I believe he had very few options seeing how buildings were everywhere. He was probably under the
thought that the best chance he had was in the water. I wonder how many pilots would have been capable of doing what he did. It's great
to know that it is actually possible to bring a large jet down in the water and it not break apart and actually float long enough for pax to get
out. I don't think it ever completely sank did it? Hopefully they will use the data from this flight to help train other pilots in what to do when
making a water landing. I wonder how many law sutes there will be even though everyone survived...

Now another thought. To me this didn't hurt the companies reputation. Everyone survived and it was an act of nature that couldn't be
helped. So has their reputation gone down or up. In my opinion I say up. Everyone survived, that's awesome. I wouldn't be scared to fly
with this company because of this crash.



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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: DSW334      1296 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    01-16-09 19:12

I don't think that it would hurt the companies reputation either. Pilot did one hell of a job and the crash was the result of a birdstrike, not some
sort of mechanical problem. So the company did nothing wrong here.



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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: gomelby  Www     67 Posts  Status: Pilot near incorporation    Date    01-17-09 05:42

Does anyone know where I could find statistical data on water landings. I just want to see how many successful water landings there
have been in the history of aviation.
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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: SkyAirWorld      1546 Posts  Status: Forum Moderator    Date    01-17-09 07:24

Was a flock of geese, and as soon as it touched down in the water ferries began to rope it up to prevent it from
sinking, it has since been
towed over into a boat dock, and is "docked" like a boat for the time being...the plane also had some more time
becuase the cabin crew
didnt open the rear doors, fearing it would sink... and also remember Jet fuel floats, the pilots probably closed the
outflow vale to retain
buoyancy....A320 also has a ditching pushbutton so it can be prepared quickly.





://media.ny1.com/media/gallery/2009/1/16/Jet_Lands_In_Hudson_River_8.JPG

gomelby, here is some reading material about ditchings and successful ditchings...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ditching
http://www.mediafire.com/?ytqnfm2kibq
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,867172,00.html
http://www.avweb.com/news/news/182363-1.html

In my personal opinion, I would estimate that given you have lost one engine due to a flock of birds, the probability
of losing the other engine as well is somewhere between 10 and 50%. (Which would be astronomical
dimensions greater than the chance of having a birdstrike in the first place.)
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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: Anastasios      1346 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    01-17-09 12:34

Security camera recordings of ditching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UzxrtAvto

Anastasios.


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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: HB-100      1151 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    01-17-09 13:25


A320!! :love:
good sweet plane... it even looks good when swimming. :)
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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: SkyAirWorld      1546 Posts  Status: Forum Moderator    Date    01-17-09 16:18

I dont see the appeal of an Airbus....

(A340 being the exception)


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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: AeroJim      1087 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    01-17-09 19:05

I'm really glad Sky gave us those photos, I couldn't find any others on the internet.
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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: jetdude43      593 Posts  Status: Instructor Astronaut    Date    01-17-09 19:22

The pilot did a good job, but is it true they fired him?
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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: DSW334      1296 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    01-17-09 19:37

Haven't read that.. Perhaps you're mixing it up with that russian plane that landed in St. Petersburg on a river, many years ago. That pilot was fired
and only later recognized as a hero, because he let the plane ran out of fuel...

At least, that's what I'm reading on another forum.



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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: iflyfsx      418 Posts  Status: Confirmed Astronaut    Date    01-17-09 23:18

It was an amazing descent. The pilot kept the plane from hitting too hard, flipping over, breaking off.

A couple of things bother me about how the media report the story. Why does everyone call it a LANDing? Is our vocabulary that poor?

What really annoys me: It's not a "miracle." Angels did not come out of thin air to put that pane down. THE PILOT did, with his personal and
professional SKILLS.

I've flown in commercial jets several times, and I've never seen "prayer" as part of the preparations for a crash. I have seen logical procedures,
though. Specific things that people can do to increase their chances of survival. There are specific things aircraft manufacturers do to make the
airplanes safer. Hoping for good luck is not a substitute.

Sorry, but it really does irritate me to no end when supposedly educated people become superstitious cave people from the stone age.

Was it just "luck" that everyone survived? No. It was the result of a combination of things. The pilot's skills, the geography, the weather, and so
on. If any of those things had been different, the end result could have been quite different. This is just how it turned out this time.

If some divine force intervened here, why not in every other airplane crash? Why not on September 11, 2001?

"Miracle," my a$$.
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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: Joeflyer      7803 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    01-17-09 23:37

ifly...you seem to be irritated about several things in your other posts as well as this one. Is this a forum by which you need to take out your
frustrations?;) You do make some good observations though...have to give ya that.



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Re: USAir A320 crash today 1/15
Author: iflyfsx      418 Posts  Status: Confirmed Astronaut    Date    01-17-09 23:54

Sorry, I can post jokes, too :)
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