| Does the scenery library effect frame rate? |
Author: gbapache 1564 Posts Status: Living Legend  | Date 07-02-11 20:30 |
Since no one seems to talk around here I thought of an interesting question. The deeper meaning of the question is..... If I check every
single scenery in my library will it slow down the 'ol Commador 64? I really do not know the answer. 
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Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-02-11 22:44 |
kinda.
dependns on the scenery and you density settings. most payware scenerys are optimized to have good detail and good frames,, but alot of
freeware, mine for exampel, arent.
and some scenerys can conflict. like if you have landclass for a city, and a airport in that city has landclass surronding it. the landclas for the airport
should take priorty, but it dosent always.
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Author: whiskey-zulu 1926 Posts Status: Forum Moderator | Date 07-02-11 22:59 |
I have to second Tim here - the priority order and the density of the overall scenery will affect frame rate, as will the addition of more traffic
whether aircraft, boats or land vehicles.
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Author: gbapache 1564 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-02-11 23:52 |
You are both very close to the answer. Review the question. I asked about everything in the library being turned on, not just my
destination. Does having Atlanta (and every other little airport) turned on have an effect on my frame rates flying into Rio?
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Author: whiskey-zulu 1926 Posts Status: Forum Moderator | Date 07-03-11 04:28 |
No, that shouldn't as it's not information that should be being accessed by the program (Assuming it's intelligent enough to know that it
doesn't need to put the Brave's stadium in Rio etc.). But, it will use up more memory, which could cause the frame rate to drop as you lose more of
the RAM.
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Author: Joeflyer 7804 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-03-11 05:19 |
I think Whiskey's on target, Sir Apache. I never use FS9 or FSX with all addon scenery active...only the scenery I am going to use for a particular
flight. In FS9, if I have all scenery active, it takes FS9 longer to initially load....and I only do this when I add scenery and need to rebuild the
scenery database for FS Nav and FSC 8. Other wise, all of that scenery just eats up precious resources 
Next week I may be crossing over to the second generation I7 P67 chip (2600K) and will shed the old Win XP 32 bit for good. I think my Asus Maximus
Extreme mobo has gotten tired anyway. Apache, cross over that bridge,too, soldier 
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Author: gbapache 1564 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-03-11 15:21 |
That sounds reasonable. I just wanted to know if I was waisting my time by checking and unchecking things in the library before and after
each flight.
As for a new machine, the 'ol Commador is set for retirement. Right now I'm doing the cost benifet analysis of the available choices and
trying to live within my budget (did you hear that Obama )
Edit: Joe, I hear you speak of "overclocking". What is that?
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Author: Joeflyer 7804 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-03-11 16:00 |
You'll have to donate the ol Commadore to the Smithsonian 
Surely you know what overclocking means  Simply, it's making the CPU run faster than the default speed. For instance, my Q9650 (quad core) has a
stock speed of 3.0 Ghz. I've made it run faster by overclocking it to 3.8 Ghz. Not a major overclock but it does run FS9 and FSX much better than
stock speed. Of course it was a fine balancing act between the CPU and ram to get a stable overclock. My current mobo seems to not like anything over
3.8. That's why I'm going with the Intel P67 mobo and 2600k CPU with Corsair Vengence ram. Apparently it's real easy to hit 4.2 Ghz and more with this
combination. Of course I'm crossing over into the water cooling system, too. I'll be adding another EVGA 570 GTX Superclocked card, too. Haven't had a
SLI system in a long time. The P67 board has a BIOS that makes overclocking the 2600k very simple.
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Author: gbapache 1564 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-03-11 16:50 |
How do you do this?
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| Re: Does the scenery library effect frame rate? |
Author: Leftcoaster 188 Posts Status: Exceptional Pilot  | Date 07-03-11 17:56 |
Short answer is no, my current FS9 installation has over ninety sceneries activated and have never seen a drop in frame rates, however
checking every box will increase your load times at start up.
As long as different sceneries are not in conflict any frame rate issues are likely to be related to the items in the scenery where you are
currently flying. With high poly count objects and dense scenery settings you could definately see some frame rate declines but this is
related to the individual scenery files in use and not the entire loaded library. Sometimes on long flights you might take a momentary
frame rate hit as FS9 calls up the scenery specific to your location but it's a transient event.
AI aircraft can really be frame-rate killers particularly if traffic is set to "heavy".
Other than that, tick all the scenery boxes you like; I have corresponded with a gentleman in England who claims to have some 240 active
sceneries with no problems other than taking almost five-minutes for FS9 to boot up. This matches my experiance so I am inclined to
believe him.
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Author: Joeflyer 7804 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-06-11 16:35 |
gbapache wrote:
How do you do this?
Explaining this could take a while If you have a motherboard, CPU and ram that play nice together, overclocking shouldn't be a problem, but it
depends on how much you want to overclock the CPU. If you intend to do an aggressive overclock, be prepared to invest in a real good CPU and
northbridge cooler. I just changed out the Vigor Monsoon lite CPU cooler since the fan on it was creating problems. It did a fine job of keeping the
CPU nice and cool under heavy loads....when I had the Intel E8400 overclocked to 3.8 Ghz. Now that I have the Intel Q9650 chip, I use the Corsair V-8
cooler. I've not seen the temps go past 58C during a heavy load on all cores. Of course this doean't explain how to overclock a pc at all...it's just
a start
I had to do ALOT of research on different mobo, CPU, ram combinations and the different BIOS settings used for overclocking. Since I'm not too pc
savvy in that regard, it took me a while to get comfortable enough to dive into the BIOS and make adjustments.
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Author: gbapache 1564 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-06-11 17:58 |
I sounds like I should leave well enough alone. Thanks dude.
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Author: Joeflyer 7804 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-06-11 20:16 |
Naa, drink you a few beers and then start playing around with the BIOS on your pc. Surely you won't blow up anything
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Author: gbapache 1564 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-06-11 20:28 |
After my 9th or 12th double scotch and vodka mayhaps I'll play with my BIOS right after I perform self surgery on that funny feeling I have in
my foot. But first I have to test my calculations for the terminal velocity of a falling body weighing 224 lbs. LMAO
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Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-06-11 21:44 |
or you could
if your handy with a sodering iorn, welder, and other tools.
take a radiator out of some old car, im shure you could jery rig something out or it and come plastic tubeing. 2 gallons of antifreez should keep the
CPU cool
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Author: gbapache 1564 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-06-11 23:02 |
Cooling "The Commador" is not a problem. I use 494.63 ft of 1/8 in. titanium tubing filled with liquid nitrogen cooled to +4.7 deg. kelvin
and to circulate this cocktail I use my grandaughters fish tank pump. It seems to work just fine.....I think I'll have another beer.
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| Re: Does the scenery library effect frame rate? |
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Author: marianoberna Www 46 Posts Status: Pilot near incorporation | Date 07-21-11 00:48 |
Long story short. It doesn't. It only makes FS load a little longer on startup (Bigger scenery database to read), but, it doesn't reduce framerates at
all, because, you aren't flyin' over 75 places at a time, only 1
to the ol' dog learning new tricks
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Author: gbapache 1564 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 07-21-11 01:40 |
Thanks skippy
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| Re: Does the scenery library effect frame rate? |
Author: Shaun Patterson 105 Posts Status: Confirmed Pilot  | Date 07-23-11 15:13 |
You can't really raise your FPS with the scenery library on both FS9 and FSX. However taking off the scenery parts that you don't use much (for
instance I don't use australasia/Oceana and so I unticked the box). This will decrease loading time a bit, but a penalty is that the airports in that area
go away until you tick the box again, and any AI flying to or from those airports will not operate.
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