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PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: relichd      410 Posts  Status: Confirmed Astronaut    Date    10-01-08 17:01

Hello everybody,

A couple of weeks ago I bought the PMDG B737-800/900NG aircraft add-on. I think I managed to get into it well. The only thing that makes me mad,
though, is landing speeds.

I know what landing speeds there are as I can read them in FMC. But the trouble is the following:

If I make the flight without fs9 atc as a guide and leave it to the FMC (most of the part) I'm just fine with everything - including the descent. But
when I keep up with instruction from fs9 atc I am forced to use the speed brake very often. I'm instructed to start to descend a bit later after I
pass the calculated T/D so I thought it could be it. On the other hand the approach path is a bit longer than a direct path put into FMC before I get
the RWY in use information...

It never happened while flying another nice A318 aircraft from Wilco. I guess it's the difference in the overall weight of the aircrafts as I could
descend at 3000ft/min with A318 keeping desired speed but I can only descend 1500 - 2000ft/min with B737-800 to achieve the same so it seems I am not
able to descend to appropriate altitude before capturing RWY's localizer. In both cases I was flying at speeds calculated by FMC.

For now I'm setting lower speed before I start to descend and try to decreasing it to 240 once some 40nm from the airport... Am I doing something
wrong? Is there anybody else having solved this "problem"?

Thanks for any help!

David.


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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: poden      1580 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    10-01-08 17:37

The FS9 ATC is known to be pretty flawed. I'm not surprised at all about having to use the speed brakes. Probably setting lowered speed is a good
way to go; you're kinda stuck with reduced speeds, or speed braking later on if you follow the ATC.
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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: relichd      410 Posts  Status: Confirmed Astronaut    Date    10-01-08 17:41

That's what I thought. And I also started to think about getting in touch with Radar Contact... :well:


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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: gronji2004  Www     974 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    10-01-08 18:51

Or use VATSIM ;)



Ryanair


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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: relichd      410 Posts  Status: Confirmed Astronaut    Date    10-01-08 20:29

gronji2004 wrote:
Or use VATSIM ;)



Nice try, captain :badsmile:

I don't know why but I still keep being a bit afraid to "go online"....


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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: Drew      5525 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    10-01-08 22:08

Radar contact make you descend a little before the fmc's T/D

You may want to try that if you dont want to go online.

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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: relichd      410 Posts  Status: Confirmed Astronaut    Date    10-01-08 22:39

I'll certainly try... I read the manual and it all sounds promissing, especially the option to fly SIDs/STARs...


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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: Anastasios      1346 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    10-02-08 00:31

You can also request a lower cruising altitude before your T/D. Like 10,000 ft lower.

But again, you always ignore ATC in some way (especially the heading part).


Anastasios.


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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: SkyAirWorld      1546 Posts  Status: Forum Moderator    Date    10-02-08 01:44

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I don't know why but I still keep being a bit afraid to "go online"....

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hahahaha, I was aswell... all the people watching...

I cant do my loops anymore ;)
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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: ameval      887 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    10-02-08 03:01

if you go online, im an approach controller, you can hop on and i;ll be patient with ya :bug: :wall: :wall: NOT! lol just kidding, i work at KATL,
Atlanta Georgia, USA




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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: gronji2004  Www     974 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    10-02-08 08:05

Yeh I work at Manchester (MAN / EGCC) In the UK! Anyone ever wants some help on VATSIM just let me know :)



Ryanair


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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: relichd      410 Posts  Status: Confirmed Astronaut    Date    10-02-08 11:00

You guys are very nice :)


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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: mgerner  Www     41 Posts  Status: Student pilot Date    10-02-08 17:54

Get in to IVAO and you will get a personal staff member who helps you with everything you need to know. Thatīs standard in IVAO, and the good thing
with IVAO is that we are much more friendly against new people, and extra helpful towards young people. New pilots is important for IVAO to grow,
thatīs what weīre saying.
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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: FsP Dennis      1852 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    10-02-08 21:06

I have just started training at Gatwick EGKK in the UK :badsmile:




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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: relichd      410 Posts  Status: Confirmed Astronaut    Date    10-02-08 21:33

mgerner wrote:
Get in to IVAO and you will get a personal staff member who helps you with everything you need to know. Thatīs standard in IVAO, and the good thing
with IVAO is that we are much more friendly against new people, and extra helpful towards young people. New pilots is important for IVAO to grow,
thatīs what weīre saying.


You just answered my question.... What's better - VATSIM or IVAO? :lol: Thx!


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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: gronji2004  Www     974 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    10-02-08 21:33

As ATC Dennis?



Ryanair


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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: ameval      887 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    10-03-08 00:23

alex what rating are ya?



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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: Chris41      103 Posts  Status: Confirmed Pilot    Date    10-03-08 02:00

Where did you purchase this aircraft..I just purchased the 900NG from Ariane...I havn't yet installed it but have heard many have problems
with it and with the Customer service.
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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: FsP Dennis      1852 Posts  Status: Living Legend    Date    10-03-08 10:01

gronji2004 wrote:
As ATC Dennis?


Yes, as ATC ;)




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Re: PMDG B737-800NG coming in too hot...
Author: relichd      410 Posts  Status: Confirmed Astronaut    Date    10-03-08 10:28

Chris41 wrote:
Where did you purchase this aircraft..I just purchased the 900NG from Ariane...I havn't yet installed it but have heard many have problems
with it and with the Customer service.


simmarket.com or simw.com - I'm not very sure...


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