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Author: Leftcoaster 188 Posts Status: Exceptional Pilot  | Date 12-06-10 19:42 |
I think it was classic airline pilot and author Ernest K. Gann who is quoted as saying: The only time an airplane has too much fuel is
when it is on fire. As somebody who ferried DC-3's across the North Atlantic and flew scheduled DC-4 flights over the Pacific you might see his point.
Nobody is advocating taking as much fuel as possible, just as much as you will possibly need. Huge difference here, one way just
takes space and the other requires planning and forethought.
Cheers
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| Re: Insufficient fuel reserves penalty |
Author: Anastasios 1346 Posts Status: Living Legend  | Date 12-08-10 23:30 |
Shaun Patterson wrote:
I know this is unrealistic, but I try and fit as much fuel on the aircraft as possible without going over the Max. Gross Weight, but I only do
this with real world weather in Autumn/Winter, when british weather is ****, rainy, low vis, overcasts etc
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| Re: Insufficient fuel reserves penalty |
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Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 12-22-10 06:00 |
I recently read a artical in the latest edition of AOPA pilot. it talked about the IFR fuel reserve. if i read the artical correctly
apparently it goes like this.
No aircraft can operat IFR with out (A) enough fuel to fly from the departure airport to the first airport of intended landing. (B) fly from there
to the first alternet airport. (C) fly on after that point for 45min (except in certinan cercumstances, explianed below). all at cruise speed with
forcasted weather
as for that certian circumstance. that artical explained that you can eat into the 45min reserve without declaring a emergincy if the
forcasted weather at the intended landing airport is good, and that airport has a IAP. this wont really help with your issue, but it intristing
to note
anoth artical talked about mantaing ground speed instad of airspeed when on shortfinal when wind sheer can turn your headwind into a
tail wind
Mocha hagotdi
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| Re: Insufficient fuel reserves penalty |
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Author: DavidK 151 Posts Status: Instructor Pilot | Date 12-22-10 12:14 |
timtomairways wrote:
I recently read a artical in the latest edition of AOPA pilot. it talked about the IFR fuel reserve......
Well, I had to fly to three alternates (i.e. beyond (C) in your post above) until I was able to land at the third. However, regardless of what the
situation is in the real world, I think Leftcoaster, Anastasios, Joeflyer, etc are correct: I may only've needed to visit two alternates, but they
may've been further apart, so I could still've landed with less than 45-mins flying time left.
Can you recall the title of the AOPA Pilot article you read? The magazine might make old issues freely accessible after a while, so it might be worth
searching for it.
David K
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| Re: Insufficient fuel reserves penalty |
Author: Shaun Patterson 105 Posts Status: Confirmed Pilot  | Date 12-22-10 16:38 |
Jesus Christ everyone, you're all missing the point anyway. DavidK said that the vis fell to zero and he's IFR Cork, Kerry
and Shannon. All have ILS approaches! Just do an autoland, or use your instruments when tuned to a Nav Frequency.
Ye, there's minimums, but i'm pretty sure at the time the autopilot's done a good job keeping you straight.
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| Re: Insufficient fuel reserves penalty |
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Author: whiskey-zulu 1916 Posts Status: Forum Moderator | Date 12-22-10 16:47 |
Regardless of an aircraft having autoland or whether the airport has an ILS, the minimum visibility has to be adhered to - usually 200 feet (any other
miniumum will be displayed on the runway charts).
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Author: timtomairways Www 1351 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 12-22-10 16:53 |
its in the lates issue, cant really remember the titel as of righht now. as soon as i can get my magizine back ill let ya know
whiskey-zulu wrote:
Regardless of an aircraft having autoland or whether the airport has an ILS, the minimum visibility has to be adhered to - usually 200 feet
(any other
miniumum will be displayed on the runway charts).
he was useing a HS 748
im not shure if that is ILS CAT3 capabel
Mocha hagotdi
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Author: whiskey-zulu 1916 Posts Status: Forum Moderator | Date 12-22-10 16:55 |
timtomairways wrote:
its in the lates issue, cant really remember the titel as of righht now. as soon as i can get my magizine back ill let ya know
whiskey-zulu wrote:
Regardless of an aircraft having autoland or whether the airport has an ILS, the minimum visibility has to be adhered to - usually 200 feet
(any other
miniumum will be displayed on the runway charts).
he was useing a HS 748
im not shure if that is ILS CAT3 capabel
That is of course another good point - whether your aircraft is capable of performing any sort of ILS approach to begin with.
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| Re: Insufficient fuel reserves penalty |
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Author: DavidK 151 Posts Status: Instructor Pilot | Date 12-24-10 09:13 |
Yes, the HS 748 is a pretty old aircraft (1960s) and only has basic ILS autopilot functions. If I'm trying to use it, I usualy end up wanting to fly a
shallower approach and so tweak it manually anyway, switching it off when (if!) the runway hoves into view.
David
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