| [official] Why SWAFO was banned |
Author: DanSteph 4286 Posts Status: Forum Administrator  | Date 12-30-05 12:04 |
The sad story of an imposter
[EDIT] No need to bother to read the whole post, simply read the apologies from this sad guy:
http://www.fspassengers.com/forum/read.php?f=1&i=17270&t=17056#reply_17270
Many of you know SWAFO where his nickname stand for "South West Airline First Officer"
this guy asked month ago to be part of the beta test team and he claimed to be a real
south west airline pilot and in this quality can have good advise and be an official
support for the credibility of FsP.
He then registered on the beta forum with the email adress: rolexparts@juno.com
and posted with various IP coming from albuquerque New mexico. This is verified
with his real adress that he sent to me to receive the free CD of FSP.
Soon given his writting wich were sometime very immature some member of the beta
team had some doubt about his status of real pilot, but as I worked often 12-14 hours at this
time to finish FSP I had no time to investigate and tought it doesn't worth the time spent
to verify. FsP had 25 beta tester SWAFO wasn't that important.
At FsP completion after 14 month of hard work I nominated several member of the beta
team to be moderator here. Soon it started that even if SWAFO had some valuable post
he started also to be arrogant and rude with some poster here and I had to warn him
many time and even refuse his ban demand against poster that simply made the fault to
disagree with him.
Two week ago he wrote inflamatory post at feelthere forum against their 737 add-on
he asked to be part of their beta team and as they refused he started to be arrogant
opiniated and even insulted the feelthere team. Curious comportment for a real pilot.
As of course he stated in first place his status of member of beta test and moderator on
FsPassengers this started a feelthere vs FsPassengers war and I received many protestation
mail and even insult mail against me and against FsPassengers.
Again this is not what we would expect from a good member of a team.
As the war was develloping on the formerly "real world aviation" forum here between
member of the two community I disabled the "real world forum"
and wrote an explaination here: http://www.fspassengers.com/forum/read.php?f=1&i=16704&t=16704
SWAFO acts started to seriously have a negative impact on FsPassengers and on
the friendly community here.
Worse, many member there and here started to say that SWAFO wasn't a real pilot and
asked me his true identity to verify. As privacy is a serious thing I refused.
Giving the increasing damage to FsP that SWAFO was doing I started to investigate seriously.
I come to various place found a lot of things about him none related to aviation and finally
found a forum where SWAFO wrote several month ago asking basic question about 737 instrument
It's obvious in this post that he don't know the difference beetween 737 INS and IRS curious
for an airliner pilot that fly a 737 every week. Adress email verified, style verified (the famous "~Brad")
He wrote also in Falcon 4 forum and other forum nowhere he claim his status of retired military
pilot or 737 pilot. Knowing brad and his famous signature here this would be curious.
Conclusion: Brad is NOT pilot of 737 nor former military pilot.
I then spent my night in personnal message trying now to solve this bad situation.
I offered to SWAFO to stay on the forum but without claiming anymore that he's a real
pilot and giving explainaition if asked why it was not anymore moderator he refused.
Now funny stuff you would expect that one accused being a fake pilot would provide
proof, pilot ID or anything else and say "hey you moron was wrong !!!" nothing !
the main defense axe was only "I had 4000 post I had valuable contribution I must
stay" or "I know the subject why not being a pilot would cause a problem?" as if one
tell you "I fool you since month this is why it must continue" and "I know medicine why I
can't anymore write as being doctor?"
I choosed to not speak about this publicly to preserve the community until clarified,
banned SWAFO as I told him if he disagree to tell the truth and told
him that he have my mail if he change mind and goes sleep after 27 hours awake.
Of course I woke up and SWAFO wrote many post from another IP and profile
in the forum claiming his innocence and putting the trouble in the community...
funny when you know the end.
Now I deeply regreat one things: I should have dismissed SWAFO several month ago
when whe had doutb, he finally doesn't care one cents about FsP all the work I have
done or the community he care only about himself and put the trouble everywhere he goes.
Verified in this forum.
Brad don't know the difference beetween 737 INS and IRS, profile adress of the poster RolexParts show
rolexparts@juno.com as in beta forum and as in his new profile SWAFC here:
http://www.fspassengers.com/forum/profile.php?f=1&id=2060 the sigi is ~Brad as
in many post here. here the image if he modify his profile:
http://www.fspassengers.com/images/brad_swaprofile1.jpg
The url is here I have no doubt this post will be edited soon but
we are many people to have a print screen:
http://tinyurl.com/78gme
Brad is "retired us air force colonel" on FsP forum he had four lines
sigi to state his career,still in Falcon 4 forum month ago he seemed to
be unproud of his career:
The url is here of course many people have screenshots:
http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=77033
Profile refer to anything but pilot career:
The situation is clear enough, only a pilot ID or a legal proof now could
reverse things but Brad would never give one simply because he isn't pilot.
Thanks for attention !
Dan
[EDIT] Finally verified by his revelation here
http://www.fspassengers.com/forum/read.php?f=1&i=17270&t=17056#reply_17270
Given also the sad attitude that it showed as moderator and when the problem
of his identity was brought up this guy is life banned from this forum.
See FsPassengers Frequently Asked Question: FAQ
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| Re: [official] Why SWAFO was banned |
Author: Capt. Wotan 223 Posts Status: Ace Pilot  | Date 12-30-05 12:30 |
A very sad day, i'll miss Brad, he seemed quite insightful for an imposter. However i'm here for the product and from the little i know Dan seems
fair and has gone out of his way to investigate a difficult situation and attempted to reach a compromise.
Sorry if you intented to close this thread without comments, i just wanted to offer my support to you and the rest of the team
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Author: Dutch64 4691 Posts Status: Forum Moderator | Date 12-30-05 12:40 |
It must have been an extremely difficult decision for Dan. In the end, FsPassengers is the most important, is what all this forum is about. So I
support Dan in this decision. I wish, like many others, things would have gone different but we should go on from here now and continue this forum as
one of the best and friendliest (imho).
Martin
 
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Author: JayKae Www 1574 Posts Status: Forum Moderator | Date 12-30-05 12:41 |
Thank you Dan for the clear explanation of the facts. My support for FsP is stronger than ever within the team & this community. Dan and I discussed the situation and we agreed that something had to be done. This is it, in a way I'll miss Brad but we need to move on.
 
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Author: DanSteph 4286 Posts Status: Forum Administrator | Date 12-30-05 12:45 |
Capt. Wotan wrote:
Sorry if you intented to close this thread without comments, i just wanted to offer my support to you and the rest of the team
comment are welcome, for now appart the full support of the rest of the team
and support of some members of the forum wich I thanks here I got
insult mail and not so much support because the majority of people that use
FsP don't care much about all those problems. I wanted to protect the community
and even brad's reputation while hidding all this problems but I didn't had the choice.
Brad made the choice to bring all this in public last night.
At worse I'll simply shut down the forum and provide only mail support. I had a dream
that a forum could help give even better support for my honnest and hard work
If by the fault of one its not true anymore FsP can survive without forum as well.
The Product is very good and I'm still decided to bring the best.
Dan
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Author: olseric 796 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 12-30-05 12:47 |
---removed by olseric---
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Author: WBHoenig Www 1824 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 12-30-05 12:49 |
Thank you Dan. I never knew you had this much evidence. I will miss Brad as a smart imposter, but hey, he is a liar who makes my blood boil.
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"Unos, Dos, Tres, Catorce!"
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Author: timcclayton 211 Posts Status: Exceptional Pilot | Date 12-30-05 12:54 |
What a sad individual he must be - pretending to be a pilot 
You made absolutely the right decision, and let the forums live on 
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Author: WBHoenig Www 1824 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 12-30-05 12:55 |
You need to temporarily put a sticky on this thread.
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"Unos, Dos, Tres, Catorce!"
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Author: DanSteph 4286 Posts Status: Forum Administrator | Date 12-30-05 12:56 |
sticky are less visible than an active thread.
Dan
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Author: WBHoenig Www 1824 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 12-30-05 12:57 |
That's true.
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"Unos, Dos, Tres, Catorce!"
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Author: Capt. Wotan 223 Posts Status: Ace Pilot | Date 12-30-05 12:58 |
i would request that Dan does not close the forum, the community has always offered first class support, even without Brad i don't see that changing.
If people insult Dan simply because they want Brad back, well, personally i think that we can do without them. Again i'll miss Brad but he didn't
design or program the product, if you want real world aviation advice try Google, it usually has answers.
I hope that the forums can return to there former state, i for one, was pleased to have found a forum not populated by imature people, but by people
who share a common passion.
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Author: DanSteph 4286 Posts Status: Forum Administrator | Date 12-30-05 13:04 |
more evidence, FAA list of registered pilots: (thanks to a forum member for the link)
https://samsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/AirmenToSearch.asp
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FAA REGISTRY
Name Inquiry - List Results
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Total Names found for B S****** that lives in the state of NEW MEXICO is 0
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FAA REGISTRY
Name Inquiry - List Results
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Total Names found for B S****** is 0
Perhaps southwest pilot are not registered ? or perhaps Brad's name and adress
were I sent the CD was a fake ? 
Dan
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Author: WBHoenig Www 1824 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 12-30-05 13:07 |
You know, you could sue him for this, Dan.
Oh, and is his last name Stanley?
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"Unos, Dos, Tres, Catorce!"
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Author: Covoxer Www 464 Posts Status: Confirmed Astronaut  | Date 12-30-05 13:20 |
I'm with you Dan!
You are the Man! 
And don't worry about Brad's absence, community will survive!
That would be the most stupid reason to close this great forum because of one man. Whoever he is...
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Author: eazy 1087 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 12-30-05 13:22 |
Thanks, Dan, to have shed some light on this unpleasant story! Although I respected Brad for what he was contributing to the community (and
even if he was a bit rude sometimes, it wasn't more than other mods on other forums), but your reasons to put an end to this are more than
acceptable. If it was my forum I wouldn't accept fake personalities either.
The reason why your forum differs so much from other FS communities is your commitment to it (and to FsP of course) and the way you
handle things here. I would like to encourage you to keep up the forum because it really is exceptional and I still give it a 100% reputation
Alors, courage!!
This said I wish everyone a Happy New Year and I hope that our friendly little FSP world will continue to turn next year!
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Author: pegase Www 1578 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 12-30-05 13:34 |
Sad events. From my side, the fact Brad is an imposter is not very important, I don't think he did it for a free copy of FsP but rather to feel more
as if he would be a pilot. A kind of oversearch of "as real as it gets". Could be also he enjoyed this "cyber-VIP" role play... Well, obviously he is
found of aviation, put heart in what he is doing, he provided here some valuable contributions to our interest and fun, so today, despite this
somewheat pathetic "game", I still keep respect for him.
In the other hand Dan, I understand that 1) You don't like to be fooled, 2) You cannot accept this situation where the result of your hard job could
be ruined by an "approval from a real fake pilot".
In summary: You took the only wise decision possible in such situation. From the customer point of view, I am fully satisfied with your prestation, I
wish your one man company success, should it only thinking about the other softwares you will create.
Hopefully, this sad end of his role play "character" will help him to find a more mature way to live his dreams.
Best regards from
Pierre, true virtual c12
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Author: Dutch64 4691 Posts Status: Forum Moderator | Date 12-30-05 13:35 |
Please don't ever stop this forum..... It's part of FsP and offers very good support.
It's kind of my second home 
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Author: WBHoenig Www 1824 Posts Status: Living Legend | Date 12-30-05 13:37 |
Dutch64 wrote:
Please don't ever stop this forum..... It's part of FsP and offers very good support.
It's kind of my second home
Me, too!
And I think I have this crazy figured out, just a google of Brad Southwest Airlines.
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"Unos, Dos, Tres, Catorce!"
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Author: DanSteph 4286 Posts Status: Forum Administrator | Date 12-30-05 13:51 |
pegase wrote:
Sad events. From my side, the fact Brad is an imposter is not very important, I don't think he did it for a free copy of FsP but rather to feel
more as if he would be a pilot.
Right analysis, I think personnaly it was at first simply to get a free copy, a small lies to be sure
to be involved in the beta team and he was catched by the roleplaying game many people being
impressed by his status. A dream come true !
At first it was the other tester in the beta forum and then hundred people here. As time pass it
was more and more difficult to admit the truth, now given his last post last night it's simply
impossible for him.
pegase wrote:
In the other hand Dan, I understand that 1) You don't like to be fooled, 2) You cannot accept this situation where the result of your hard job
could be ruined by an "approval from a real fake pilot".
We had doubt since month, I can live with the doubt as FsP is obviously not based on brad's work and
knowledge. What I cannot live with are lies when there is evidence and unfair act against the team
and FsP. Nothing would have happenned without such arrogant attitude from a supposed "VIP"
at feelthere forum. The roleplaying game whent to far and Brad overvalued the weight that his
new VIP status can give him.
He don't care a cents about FSP or the community what he try to save now is his image and
role playing game. He will NEVER admit anything and at worse he will quit, still playing the honnest
guy that was offended.
pegase wrote:
In summary: You took the only wise decision possible in such situation. From the customer point of view, I am fully satisfied with your
prestation, I wish your one man company success, should it only thinking about the other softwares you will create.
Thanks for support, I try my best to stay fair and honnest in all my actions, it's sometime not easy
when you have the choice beetween a smash and another smash.
Dan
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