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Carenado and Alabeo Aircraft Problems in Flight? - N324JK - 06-01-2016

Okay, so with certain Carenado and Alabeo aircraft, I get the following error message at the bottom of every Report:

"NOTE*: One or more failures was probaby set by aircraft of another addon. FsPassengers can't judge such failure(s) or if it was pilot
error. It is recommended to disable aircraft failures and keep only FsPassengers failures."

I know I certainly haven't set any failures for these planes, and I'm fairly sure Carenado/Alabeo didn't, either. They tend not to be too detailed in their systems and
procedures, so I wouldn't think it's something I'm doing wrong, but will say that I get the error even when following checklists.

The weird thing is that there seems to be no rhyme or reason to which planes will have the failure, so all I've been able to do is trial and error to see which planes
generate the error and which ones don't. For instance, it doesn't seem to matter whether the plane has RXP incorporated or not (e.g., I'll get the error on the T206 with
and without RXP installed), or one of the F1 GTN models (I'll get the error in the Alabeo Saratoga II TC, but not the 404 Titan, both of which have the F1 GTN750
installed).

Even more bizarre is that the Flight Report doesn't say what failed - just "one or more systems failed...". The flights are otherwise uneventful and I don't notice any
failure.

So far, I've come up with the following list of addons from this group that generate a "ghost failure":

Carenado Bonanza A36
Alabeo DA42 Twin Star
Carenado CT206H Stationair
Carenado CT182T Skylane
Carenado PA34 Seneca V
Carenado SR22 Cirrus
Alabeo D17 Staggerwing
Alabeo DA40 Diamond Star
Alabeo PA32 Saratoga II TC
Alabeo C207 Skywagon 8
Alabeo C195 Businessliner
Alabeo C172RG Cutlass II
Alabeo C177 and C177RG Cardinal II

Other addons released by Carenado and Alabeo, both before and after the ones I listed above were released, work just fine, as do pretty much all other addons I have.
There might be others that don't work that I just haven't tried. In any event, is there anything someone's found in the aircraft.cfg files that "gives away" whether it'll
produce the error? Is there a way to "fix" the problem so I can use these planes? I've looked through these forums, and haven't seen a definitive answer, so I thought
I'd ask for myself. If it makes a difference, I'm using FSX.

Thanks,
Jon



Post Edited ( 01-06-16 05:48 )


Re: Carenado and Alabeo Aircraft Problems in Flight? - SamTDS - 06-01-2016

Quote:N324JK wrote:
Okay, so with certain Carenado and Alabeo aircraft, I get the following error message at the bottom of every Report:

"NOTE*: One or more failures was probaby set by aircraft of another addon. FsPassengers can't judge such failure(s) or if it was pilot
error. It is recommended to disable aircraft failures and keep only FsPassengers failures."

I know I certainly haven't set any failures for these planes, and I'm fairly sure Carenado/Alabeo didn't, either. They tend not to be too detailed in their systems
and
procedures, so I wouldn't think it's something I'm doing wrong, but will say that I get the error even when following checklists.

The weird thing is that there seems to be no rhyme or reason to which planes will have the failure, so all I've been able to do is trial and error to see which
planes
generate the error and which ones don't. For instance, it doesn't seem to matter whether the plane has RXP incorporated or not (e.g., I'll get the error on the
T206 with
and without RXP installed), or one of the F1 GTN models (I'll get the error in the Alabeo Saratoga II TC, but not the 404 Titan, both of which have the F1
GTN750
installed).

Even more bizarre is that the Flight Report doesn't say what failed - just "one or more systems failed...". The flights are otherwise uneventful and I
don't notice any
failure.

So far, I've come up with the following list of addons from this group that generate a "ghost failure":

Carenado Bonanza A36
Alabeo DA42 Twin Star
Carenado CT206H Stationair
Carenado CT182T Skylane
Carenado PA34 Seneca V
Carenado SR22 Cirrus
Alabeo D17 Staggerwing
Alabeo DA40 Diamond Star
Alabeo PA32 Saratoga II TC
Alabeo C207 Skywagon 8
Alabeo C195 Businessliner
Alabeo C172RG Cutlass II
Alabeo C177 and C177RG Cardinal II

Other addons released by Carenado and Alabeo, both before and after the ones I listed above were released, work just fine, as do pretty much all other addons
I have.
There might be others that don't work that I just haven't tried. In any event, is there anything someone's found in the aircraft.cfg files that "gives
away" whether it'll
produce the error? Is there a way to "fix" the problem so I can use these planes? I've looked through these forums, and haven't seen a definitive
answer, so I thought
I'd ask for myself. If it makes a difference, I'm using FSX.

Thanks,
Jon
Go over there and ask for versions of them which has no failures in it, hopefully they can so you can use all these aircrft




Re: Carenado and Alabeo Aircraft Problems in Flight? - Joeflyer - 06-01-2016

Of the aircraft you listed, I have the Seneca V and the Skylane and have never experienced ghost failures with these aircraft. Are you sure you
don't have failures activated within FSX settings
? I also have the B1900 and C208EX...same result....no ghost failures.




Re: Carenado and Alabeo Aircraft Problems in Flight? - N324JK - 06-01-2016

Joe,

The only thing I have set in FSX is crash detection, collision with objects, stress causes damage, and engine stress causes engine damage. This is set generically for
FSX, meaning it *should* affect all FSX aircraft equally, so why it would cause some aircraft to trigger a failure, but not others even developed by the same company,
doesn't make sense unless there's something about the code of the individual airplane that causes it. Or that FsP code, for whatever reason, doesn't sit well with how
something about that particular airplane was modeled. Unless you don't have the same realism settings as I do, it's strange that I would get the errors and you wouldn't.

At the end of the day, it's not a huge deal; the failures don't, by themselves, cost my company money to fix (beyond standard post-flight repair), or cause flight/bonus points
much of a penalty. It's more of a "nice to be able to fly this plane without getting ever so slightly dinged for a failure I didn't even know happened" thing, and was
wondering if anyone had worked out a solution (short of needing to change FSX settings). Something along the lines of, "if you see this [insert code or setting] in the
aircraft.cfg, that's what causes it." If not, fair enough, just thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

For what it's worth, I don't get the error with the B1900, either; haven't used the 208EX with it yet, so I don't know if I would or not. I guess that's what really has me
scratching my head, the pure randomness to the whole issue (other than I know I can repeat it for specific addons).

Thanks,

Jon


Re: Carenado and Alabeo Aircraft Problems in Flight? - SamTDS - 06-01-2016

Quote:N324JK wrote:
Joe,

The only thing I have set in FSX is crash detection, collision with objects, stress causes damage, and engine stress causes engine damage. This is set
generically for
FSX, meaning it *should* affect all FSX aircraft equally, so why it would cause some aircraft to trigger a failure, but not others even developed by the same
company,
doesn't make sense unless there's something about the code of the individual airplane that causes it. Or that FsP code, for whatever reason, doesn't sit well
with how
something about that particular airplane was modeled. Unless you don't have the same realism settings as I do, it's strange that I would get the errors and
you wouldn't.

At the end of the day, it's not a huge deal; the failures don't, by themselves, cost my company money to fix (beyond standard post-flight repair), or cause
flight/bonus points
much of a penalty. It's more of a "nice to be able to fly this plane without getting ever so slightly dinged for a failure I didn't even know happened"
thing, and was
wondering if anyone had worked out a solution (short of needing to change FSX settings). Something along the lines of, "if you see this [insert code or
setting] in the
aircraft.cfg, that's what causes it." If not, fair enough, just thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

For what it's worth, I don't get the error with the B1900, either; haven't used the 208EX with it yet, so I don't know if I would or not. I guess that's what really
has me
scratching my head, the pure randomness to the whole issue (other than I know I can repeat it for specific addons).

Thanks,

Jon
try it without the stress options turned on




Re: Carenado and Alabeo Aircraft Problems in Flight? - Gabloc - 08-01-2016

i have de fsx: steam

My settings that you got is with full realistic flight model and detect crashes and damage and aircraft stress causes damage works great Carenado's phenom 300, PC 12, King Air 200,
C206, C210 and alabeo 177 cardinal

but no have F1 GTN750 and RXP addon

Smile




Re: Carenado and Alabeo Aircraft Problems in Flight? - SamTDS - 08-01-2016

Quote:Gabloc wrote:
i have de fsx: steam

My settings that you got is with full realistic flight model and detect crashes and damage and aircraft stress causes damage works great Carenado's phenom
300, PC 12, King Air 200,
C206, C210 and alabeo 177 cardinal

but no have F1 GTN750 and RXP addon

Smile
Have you tried my idea?




Re: Carenado and Alabeo Aircraft Problems in Flight? - Joeflyer - 08-01-2016

Quote:N324JK wrote:
Joe,

The only thing I have set in FSX is crash detection, collision with objects, stress causes damage, and engine stress causes engine damage. This is
set generically for
FSX, meaning it *should* affect all FSX aircraft equally, so why it would cause some aircraft to trigger a failure, but not others even developed by
the same company,
doesn't make sense unless there's something about the code of the individual airplane that causes it.

I was really referring to failure settings that are available within the FSX menu itself. Did you make sure there aren't any failure settings active
there? I'm not referring to stress/ collision/engine stress settings.



Post Edited ( 01-08-16 16:07 )


Re: Carenado and Alabeo Aircraft Problems in Flight? - SamTDS - 08-01-2016

Quote:Joeflyer wrote:
Quote:N324JK wrote:
Joe,

The only thing I have set in FSX is crash detection, collision with objects, stress causes damage, and engine stress causes engine damage. This is
set generically for
FSX, meaning it *should* affect all FSX aircraft equally, so why it would cause some aircraft to trigger a failure, but not others even developed by
the same company,
doesn't make sense unless there's something about the code of the individual airplane that causes it.

I was really referring to failure settings that are available within the FSX menu itself. Did you make sure there aren't any failure settings active
there? I'm not referring to stress/ collision/engine stress settings.
I was thinking the stress options because the aircraft might be buggy with them causing a failure to come up




Re: Carenado and Alabeo Aircraft Problems in Flight? - Joeflyer - 08-01-2016

Fact is, Sam, he needs to check those failure options within FSX to make sure there isn't anything scheduled to fail. That's the entire point of this
conversation so far. I haven't received this confirmation yet.




RE: Carenado and Alabeo Aircraft Problems in Flight? - Merlin59 - 04-05-2016

Strangely I just received the same message with Carenado's Cessna 185f. Hadn't ever seen it before. It was the tail gear on it. I fixed it and all seems well though. Never had seen this message so this thread caught my attention. No failures were scheduled and outside or fsx failures are off. Any other ideas what may have caused this? I did have to repair the gear in fspassengers even though it stated it was an outside failure. I have many Alabeo and Carenado aircraft but this was a first.