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Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - pinto.blood - 30-12-2015
Hello Dan,
Thank you for FsPassengers X. It has given me a sense of responsibility in the skies.
Now, this morning I setup a flight CYVR-YSSY wth the PMDG 747-400. Proper checks were made to ensure all procedures followed and in order ready for a
safe flight to Sydney. I taxied to the runway, and when I commenced roll at 50% N1, then to 100% full thrust, at 80 knots the copilot reported that
one of the exists were not shut properly. At this time I could see that my passengers were scared and could hear a heavy gush of wind back there in
the cabin (a clear indicator that something was not properly shut). I then reduced thrust to 0/idle, raised the spoilers and activated reverse thrust
to slow here down. I then quickly disengaged the A/T and exit the runway; stopped and turned off the landing lights and strobes, inluding wing lights,
F/D off and set transponder to standby. I started the APU before taxiing back to the gate.
At the gate, I SET MY PARKING BRAKE and carried out all checks before opening the door to let my passengers off (obviously, if it was a fire then I'd
open the door straight away before leaving the aircraft). This also included attaching the jetway (simulating reality as much as possible). Well then,
I opened the door only to realise that the passengers are NOT LEAVING THE PLANE. I closed the door and reopened it again multiple times, and they
would NOT LEAVE THE PLANE. I had to end flight losing the opportunity of logging an incident report.
FSPXInstall.log:>
-FsPassengers setup ver. Dec 26 2015 started: 29.12.2015 - 21:25
-Search if FsX is running
-OK FsX is not running
-Attempting to find FsX directory.
-Checking 64 byte registry for fsx vanilla
-Fsx vanilla Directory found: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\
-Checking 64 byte registry for fsx steam edition
-64 byte registry not found, checking 32 byte registry for fsx steam edition
-Registry key of FsX steam edition not found or unreadable
-Checking FsX path, searching this file: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\dialogs\dlgabout.spb
-FsX found ok
-Detecting OS and FsPassengers install path...
-Windows 10: 10.0
-FsPassengers will be installed in: C:\Users\Public\Documents\FsPassengers
-Getting FSX version
-FsX version returned: 10.0.61472.0
-FsX version OK: SP2
-Check free space
-Free space Total Mb available: 715967
-Check needed space
-Needed space: 147
-Previous version detected - this is an upgrade of 2015 version of FsPassengersX.
-No previous version of FsPX 2008 detected.
-Start of file copy...
-Extracting file to: C:\Users\Public\Documents\FsPassengers
-Ok: all files extracted correctly
-Attempting to find dll.xml file
-Getting FsX.exe version
-FsX.exe version: 10.0.61472
-Not found in CSIDL_COMMON_APPDATA (...All Users\Application Data)
-Found in CSIDL_APPDATA (...username\Application Data)
-Dll.xml found in: C:\Users\Sky-Prince\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\dll.xml
-Writting FsPassengers addon in dll.xml
-Start of dll.xml parsing----------------------------
-dll.xml, Nbr of addons found: 15
-dll.xml : ' ObjectFlow.dll' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' Addon Manager' Xml ok.
-dll.xml Previous version of 'FsPassengersX' found, will be replaced by a new one.
-dll.xml : ' ObjectFlow_YMML.dll' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' AFXModule' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' Object Placement Tool' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' Traffic Toolbox' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' Visual Effects Tool' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' PMDG Options' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' PMDG Events' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' PMDG Sounds' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' FSUIPC 4' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' FS Recorder' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' FollowMe 2' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' as_connect' Xml ok.
-dll.xml written ok
-End of dll.xml parsing----------------------------
-Emptying old installation of FsPassengers into FsX's folder and/or creating new FsPassengers folder C:\Users\Public\Documents\FsPassengers
-Copying FsPassengers files into FSX's folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\FsPassengers
-Attempting to write Config file 'FsPassengers\bin\FsXPath.cfg'
-Config file 'FsPassengers\bin\FsXPath.cfg' written ok
-Creating shortcut in start menu...
-Attempting to write uninstall information in 'bin\uninstallpath.cfg'
-Number of files not replaced by update (to keep user's modification): 543
-Checking and updating more_option.cfg
-No update required for file more_option.cfg
-Checking and updating money_currency.cfg
-No update required for file money_currency.cfg
-Writting FsPassengers's windows in missionpanel.cfg
-missionpanel.cfg - ok
-Adding uninstall key to registry
-Uninstall key added to registry
-Checking if simconnect and all library are installed
-FsPassengersX.dll loaded fine - simconnect and library ok
-Install completed with success
-Writting this log in FsPassengers folder...
.............................................................................................................................................................
Log.txt:>
-------------------------------------
FsPassengers X ver. Dec 26 2015
LOG started 30.12.2015 - 17:18
-------------------------------------
Start of FsPassengersX.dll
Selected Language:English
No keyboard.ini to load - ok
Getting FSX version
FsX version returned: 10.0.61472.0
FsX version OK: SP2
Fsx path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X
FsP path: C:\Users\Public\Documents
Loading config file
Nbr of currency found in file: 7
Selected currency:GBP
Nbr of inflation data found 113
Config file saved
DirectSoundInit->Success
Start Init Failures
End Init Failures OK. Nbr of failures: 40
searching music collection
Music found: 8
Module and mem Listing. Please report those in case of CTD >>>:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
bin\nodump.txt found, no module and memory listing
End of module listing
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All init completed ok - run addon
SimConnect_Open - OK
SimConnect_CallDispatch - OK
End of initialisation - OK
Searching banner skin
Config file saved
Detect parking brakes available:
Parking brakes available
Function MM GAFN32 start
Function MM GAFN32 end
Function MM GAFN32 start
Function MM GAFN32 end
Payload ini> search loadmodel for: PMDG - 747-400 GE Qantas Oneworld Livery
Payload ini> Found models: 747-4 (cargo)
Payload ini> Found models: 747-4
Payload ini> Found models: 747
Payload ini> best match: 747-4
Payload ini> Loaded: 747-4.ini
original CGPos= 0.22636
Payload ini> search passenger lon: -118.42 lat:33.94 maxpass: 398
Payload ini> zone nbr: 0 use zone list name (self-1): 0 passengers found 398
Force Belly landing started
Gear speed limit found = 320
crash points: 4
Point # replaced: 3
Force Belly completed OK points added: 5
Don't Use FSP ATC ID
Starting FsPassengers adventure
Function ForceCrashAndCollideFlag
Function ForceCrashAndCollideFlag end
Loading Crew sound from user chosen directory Sound/CrewPack\Default\
Loading crew text, default voice pack used
Disabled penalty flag 0
Call function GAFFA4645
END function GAFFA4645 found: 73
Call function RAFF43587
End function RAFF43587
Detect parking brakes available:
Parking brakes available
Movies_choices.cfg loaded movies availables: 6
Config file saved
>>>>speed <1 collide flag 0
Total Percentage of failure= 5
Pausing FsPassengers adventure
UnPausing FsPassengers adventure
Pausing FsPassengers adventure
UnPausing FsPassengers adventure
Pausing FsPassengers adventure
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - Joeflyer - 30-12-2015
Have you tried setting the parking brake and then select "End Flight" in the FsP menu? If that is not working, maybe we need to visit another
troubleshooting method.
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - pinto.blood - 30-12-2015
Quote:Joeflyer wrote:
Have you tried setting the parking brake and then select "End Flight" in the FsP menu? If that is not working, maybe we need to visit another
troubleshooting method.
Hello Joe,
Parking brake was set. End flight that should have appeared also had unload aircraft to abort FsPassengers X. That was the only available option. I
was gutted, because in these kind of situations, I'd like the report to be logged. It looks good on my company's reputation.
Maybe Dan and his crew has some work to do troubleshooting new methods. Lol!
I love the product, really. I also emailed Dan about allowing refueling option during flight, but only once. Some flights to YMML on Qantas, for
example, requires a stop over for refueling due to unfavourable winds. Dan explained the difficulty of doing these changes.
But anyway, haha! I just want my passengers to get off the plane next time something happens.
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - SamTDS - 31-12-2015
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:xd "Dan and his crew" Dan is the sole developer of fsp,
Quote:Joeflyer wrote:
Have you tried setting the parking brake and then select &quot;End Flight&quot; in the FsP menu? If that is not working, maybe we need to visit
another
troubleshooting method.
Hello Joe,
Parking brake was set. End flight that should have appeared also had unload aircraft to abort FsPassengers X. That was the only available option. I
was gutted, because in these kind of situations, I'd like the report to be logged. It looks good on my company's reputation.
Maybe Dan and his crew has some work to do troubleshooting new methods. Lol!
I love the product, really. I also emailed Dan about allowing refueling option during flight, but only once. Some flights to YMML on Qantas, for
example, requires a stop over for refueling due to unfavourable winds. Dan explained the difficulty of doing these changes.
But anyway, haha! I just want my passengers to get off the plane next time something happens.
us hear on the fourms are his helpers helping people with problems. Did you check the door light panel? Also make sure you follow the pmdg faliure
checklists and make sure its fine. If not declare then emergency in fsp
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - pinto.blood - 31-12-2015
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:xd "Dan and his crew" Dan is the sole
Quote:Joeflyer wrote:
Have you tried setting the parking brake and then select &amp;quot;End Flight&amp;quot; in the FsP menu? If that is not working, maybe we need
to visit
another
troubleshooting method.
Hello Joe,
Parking brake was set. End flight that should have appeared also had unload aircraft to abort FsPassengers X. That was the only available option. I
was gutted, because in these kind of situations, I'd like the report to be logged. It looks good on my company's reputation.
Maybe Dan and his crew has some work to do troubleshooting new methods. Lol!
I love the product, really. I also emailed Dan about allowing refueling option during flight, but only once. Some flights to YMML on Qantas, for
example, requires a stop over for refueling due to unfavourable winds. Dan explained the difficulty of doing these changes.
But anyway, haha! I just want my passengers to get off the plane next time something happens.
developer of fsp,
us hear on the fourms are his helpers helping people with problems. Did you check the door light panel? Also make sure you follow the pmdg faliure
checklists and make sure its fine. If not declare then emergency in fsp
xd Lol! Oh! Hats off to Dan!
I did not simulate any failures in the PMDG 747-400. All failures are as a result of FsPassengers.
Wait; door light panel? In the PMDG 747-400? The door open or closed is illustrated by lower EICAS (selected DR on the MCP). Like I said, all checks
were made. This failure has nothing to do with the PMDG product. With parking brakes set and main doors opened, the passengers should have left the
plane. But, they did not.
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - SamTDS - 31-12-2015
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:I think a problem with the door may be viable for a fsp emergency to be declared, ik how good the pmdg products are and don't blame them, I took the door
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:xd &quot;Dan and his crew&quot; Dan is the
Quote:Joeflyer wrote:
Have you tried setting the parking brake and then select &amp;amp;quot;End Flight&amp;amp;quot; in the FsP menu? If that is not working, maybe
we need
to visit
another
troubleshooting method.
Hello Joe,
Parking brake was set. End flight that should have appeared also had unload aircraft to abort FsPassengers X. That was the only available option. I
was gutted, because in these kind of situations, I'd like the report to be logged. It looks good on my company's reputation.
Maybe Dan and his crew has some work to do troubleshooting new methods. Lol!
I love the product, really. I also emailed Dan about allowing refueling option during flight, but only once. Some flights to YMML on Qantas, for
example, requires a stop over for refueling due to unfavourable winds. Dan explained the difficulty of doing these changes.
But anyway, haha! I just want my passengers to get off the plane next time something happens.
sole
developer of fsp,
us hear on the fourms are his helpers helping people with problems. Did you check the door light panel? Also make sure you follow the pmdg faliure
checklists and make sure its fine. If not declare then emergency in fsp
xd Lol! Oh! Hats off to Dan!
I did not simulate any failures in the PMDG 747-400. All failures are as a result of FsPassengers.
Wait; door light panel? In the PMDG 747-400? The door open or closed is illustrated by lower EICAS (selected DR on the MCP). Like I said, all checks
were made. This failure has nothing to do with the PMDG product. With parking brakes set and main doors opened, the passengers should have left the
plane. But, they did not.
panel idea from the 800
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - pinto.blood - 31-12-2015
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:I think a problem with the door may be viable for a fsp emergency to be declared, ik how good the pmdg products are and don't blame them, I took the door
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:xd &amp;quot;Dan and his crew&amp;quot;
Quote:Joeflyer wrote:
Have you tried setting the parking brake and then select &amp;amp;amp;quot;End Flight&amp;amp;amp;quot; in the FsP menu? If that is not
working, maybe
we need
to visit
another
troubleshooting method.
Hello Joe,
Parking brake was set. End flight that should have appeared also had unload aircraft to abort FsPassengers X. That was the only available option. I
was gutted, because in these kind of situations, I'd like the report to be logged. It looks good on my company's reputation.
Maybe Dan and his crew has some work to do troubleshooting new methods. Lol!
I love the product, really. I also emailed Dan about allowing refueling option during flight, but only once. Some flights to YMML on Qantas, for
example, requires a stop over for refueling due to unfavourable winds. Dan explained the difficulty of doing these changes.
But anyway, haha! I just want my passengers to get off the plane next time something happens.
Dan is the
sole
developer of fsp,
us hear on the fourms are his helpers helping people with problems. Did you check the door light panel? Also make sure you follow the pmdg faliure
checklists and make sure its fine. If not declare then emergency in fsp
xd Lol! Oh! Hats off to Dan!
I did not simulate any failures in the PMDG 747-400. All failures are as a result of FsPassengers.
Wait; door light panel? In the PMDG 747-400? The door open or closed is illustrated by lower EICAS (selected DR on the MCP). Like I said, all checks
were made. This failure has nothing to do with the PMDG product. With parking brakes set and main doors opened, the passengers should have left the
plane. But, they did not.
panel idea from the 800
Hey, good evening,
Umm, I tried declaring an emergency, but got the message saying that I cannot declare an emergency on the ground. It then instructed me to close the
panel covering the emergency button. I still, however, dialled the emergency skawk 7700.
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - SamTDS - 31-12-2015
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:Maybe verify the door is shut as well as an external view check and try the takeoff again
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:I think a problem with the door may be viable for a fsp emergency to be declared, ik how good the pmdg products are and don't blame them, I took the door
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:xd &amp;amp;quot;Dan and his
Quote:Joeflyer wrote:
Have you tried setting the parking brake and then select &amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;End Flight&amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; in the FsP menu? If that is
not
working, maybe
we need
to visit
another
troubleshooting method.
Hello Joe,
Parking brake was set. End flight that should have appeared also had unload aircraft to abort FsPassengers X. That was the only available option. I
was gutted, because in these kind of situations, I'd like the report to be logged. It looks good on my company's reputation.
Maybe Dan and his crew has some work to do troubleshooting new methods. Lol!
I love the product, really. I also emailed Dan about allowing refueling option during flight, but only once. Some flights to YMML on Qantas, for
example, requires a stop over for refueling due to unfavourable winds. Dan explained the difficulty of doing these changes.
But anyway, haha! I just want my passengers to get off the plane next time something happens.
crew&amp;amp;quot;
Dan is the
sole
developer of fsp,
us hear on the fourms are his helpers helping people with problems. Did you check the door light panel? Also make sure you follow the pmdg faliure
checklists and make sure its fine. If not declare then emergency in fsp
xd Lol! Oh! Hats off to Dan!
I did not simulate any failures in the PMDG 747-400. All failures are as a result of FsPassengers.
Wait; door light panel? In the PMDG 747-400? The door open or closed is illustrated by lower EICAS (selected DR on the MCP). Like I said, all checks
were made. This failure has nothing to do with the PMDG product. With parking brakes set and main doors opened, the passengers should have left the
plane. But, they did not.
panel idea from the 800
Hey, good evening,
Umm, I tried declaring an emergency, but got the message saying that I cannot declare an emergency on the ground. It then instructed me to close the
panel covering the emergency button. I still, however, dialled the emergency skawk 7700.
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - pinto.blood - 01-01-2016
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:Maybe verify the door is shut as well as an external view check and try the takeoff again
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:I think a problem with the door may be viable for a fsp emergency to be declared, ik how good the pmdg products are and don't blame them, I took the door
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:xd &amp;amp;amp;quot;Dan and his
Quote:Joeflyer wrote:
Have you tried setting the parking brake and then select &amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;End Flight&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; in the FsP menu? If
that is
not
working, maybe
we need
to visit
another
troubleshooting method.
Hello Joe,
Parking brake was set. End flight that should have appeared also had unload aircraft to abort FsPassengers X. That was the only available option. I
was gutted, because in these kind of situations, I'd like the report to be logged. It looks good on my company's reputation.
Maybe Dan and his crew has some work to do troubleshooting new methods. Lol!
I love the product, really. I also emailed Dan about allowing refueling option during flight, but only once. Some flights to YMML on Qantas, for
example, requires a stop over for refueling due to unfavourable winds. Dan explained the difficulty of doing these changes.
But anyway, haha! I just want my passengers to get off the plane next time something happens.
crew&amp;amp;amp;quot;
Dan is the
sole
developer of fsp,
us hear on the fourms are his helpers helping people with problems. Did you check the door light panel? Also make sure you follow the pmdg faliure
checklists and make sure its fine. If not declare then emergency in fsp
xd Lol! Oh! Hats off to Dan!
I did not simulate any failures in the PMDG 747-400. All failures are as a result of FsPassengers.
Wait; door light panel? In the PMDG 747-400? The door open or closed is illustrated by lower EICAS (selected DR on the MCP). Like I said, all checks
were made. This failure has nothing to do with the PMDG product. With parking brakes set and main doors opened, the passengers should have left the
plane. But, they did not.
panel idea from the 800
Hey, good evening,
Umm, I tried declaring an emergency, but got the message saying that I cannot declare an emergency on the ground. It then instructed me to close the
panel covering the emergency button. I still, however, dialled the emergency skawk 7700.
OOOHHH!!! Maybe that is why they didn't leave the plane, because I was not at the destination airport, but instead, decided to head back to the gate,
and unload in order to check if the aircraft needed maintenance. Still, this doesn't quite add up, because when the parking brake was set the hostess
announced that passenegers should remain seated until etc, etc, etc. Maybe I missed what she said completely and could have attempted the takeoff
again, first verifying that the door is properly shut.
If this reoccurs I'll note the situation in its entirety.
Thank you for your efforts, Sam.
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - SamTDS - 01-01-2016
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:Maybe verify the door is shut as well as an external view check and try the takeoff again
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:I think a problem with the door may be viable for a fsp emergency to be declared, ik how good the pmdg products are and don't blame them, I took the door
Quote:SamTDS wrote:
Quote:pinto.blood wrote:xd &amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;Dan and his
Quote:Joeflyer wrote:np. I recently had to tell somebody to move their company aircraft they need to fly them with fsp which makes me laugh
Have you tried setting the parking brake and then select &amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;End Flight&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; in the
FsP menu? If
that is
not
working, maybe
we need
to visit
another
troubleshooting method.
Hello Joe,
Parking brake was set. End flight that should have appeared also had unload aircraft to abort FsPassengers X. That was the only available option. I
was gutted, because in these kind of situations, I'd like the report to be logged. It looks good on my company's reputation.
Maybe Dan and his crew has some work to do troubleshooting new methods. Lol!
I love the product, really. I also emailed Dan about allowing refueling option during flight, but only once. Some flights to YMML on Qantas, for
example, requires a stop over for refueling due to unfavourable winds. Dan explained the difficulty of doing these changes.
But anyway, haha! I just want my passengers to get off the plane next time something happens.
crew&amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;
Dan is the
sole
developer of fsp,
us hear on the fourms are his helpers helping people with problems. Did you check the door light panel? Also make sure you follow the pmdg faliure
checklists and make sure its fine. If not declare then emergency in fsp
xd Lol! Oh! Hats off to Dan!
I did not simulate any failures in the PMDG 747-400. All failures are as a result of FsPassengers.
Wait; door light panel? In the PMDG 747-400? The door open or closed is illustrated by lower EICAS (selected DR on the MCP). Like I said, all checks
were made. This failure has nothing to do with the PMDG product. With parking brakes set and main doors opened, the passengers should have left the
plane. But, they did not.
panel idea from the 800
Hey, good evening,
Umm, I tried declaring an emergency, but got the message saying that I cannot declare an emergency on the ground. It then instructed me to close the
panel covering the emergency button. I still, however, dialled the emergency skawk 7700.
OOOHHH!!! Maybe that is why they didn't leave the plane, because I was not at the destination airport, but instead, decided to head back to the gate,
and unload in order to check if the aircraft needed maintenance. Still, this doesn't quite add up, because when the parking brake was set the hostess
announced that passenegers should remain seated until etc, etc, etc. Maybe I missed what she said completely and could have attempted the takeoff
again, first verifying that the door is properly shut.
If this reoccurs I'll note the situation in its entirety.
Thank you for your efforts, Sam.
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - Joeflyer - 01-01-2016
Any further report on this Pinto?
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - SamTDS - 01-01-2016
Quote:Joeflyer wrote:He will say it and when he gets this again.
Any further report on this Pinto?
Re: Emergency - Reject Takeoff - Passengers would not leave plane - Joeflyer - 02-01-2016
I'm aware of that Sam
