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FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - Headi - 17-07-2015
Hey guys,
I have bought FSPassengers 2015. I want to use it with Aerosoft Airbus A320.
If I have started a FS Passengers Flight I have got a mistake.
I cant rotate, the plane doesen't react.
Bevor the Start I have Checkt the flightcontrolls. No Mistake!
On Flightdisplay all is normal but the plane doesn't lift up on Runway.
If I don't start FSPassengers, I haven't got problems!
What's the mistake?
Re: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - Joeflyer - 17-07-2015
Have you set proper trim on the airbus?
Re: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - gbapache - 18-07-2015
Also, what airspeed are you at Vr.
Re: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - Headi - 20-07-2015
Hey,
yes I have set trim.
Airspeed is 138
Re: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - Joeflyer - 21-07-2015
Quote:Headi wrote:
Hey,
yes I have set trim.
Airspeed is 138
What trim setting do you typically use? Also, is the aircraft within CG? It seems to me that trim may not be set correctly based on the weight and CG.
Why else would it not rotate? You may want to check your sim settings as well to make sure the device you are using is calibrated properly for the Airbus.
Re: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - Romczyk - 13-02-2016
I have the same issue. Have just re-tested it on both A319 and A320. Have started them in 3 airports without FSPAssengers from Cold'and'Dark and got into the air without any problems. I use internal Checklist feature from Aerosoft.
Then the same configuration with FSPassengers P3D and cannot rotate at normal speed 130-150, only after reaching 200-210 and 1 mile after end of runway I can rotate.
I have flown Aerosoft Airbus for P3D since about 1 year and had no issues prior purchasing FSPassengers. I fly a lot PMDG 737 and 777 as well, but these two work very well.
Post Edited ( 02-13-16 12:29 )
Re: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - SamTDS - 13-02-2016
Quote:Romczyk wrote:Do you have the controls go through fsuipc?
I have the same issue. Have just re-tested it on both A319 and A320. Have started them in 3 airports without FSPAssengers from Cold'and'Dark and got into
the air without any problems. I use internal Checklist feature from Aerosoft.
Then the same configuration with FSPassengers P3D and cannot rotate at normal speed 130-150, only after reaching 200-210 and 1 mile after end of runway I
can rotate.
I have flown Aerosoft Airbus for P3D since about 1 year and had no issues prior purchasing FSPassengers. I fly a lot PMDG 737 and 777 as well, but these
two work very well.
Re: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - Romczyk - 13-02-2016
No idea, how do I check it?
Re: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - SamTDS - 13-02-2016
Quote:Romczyk wrote:Do you have fsuipc?
No idea, how do I check it?
Re: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - Joeflyer - 14-02-2016
Well, I recently installed the Airbus 318/319/320/321 in P3D 3.1 and have similar issues now as Headi. I have tried several different payload models,
too. Moreover, I have FSUIPC installed with all controls set via FSUIPC. For the most part the trim won't even work properly with the Airbus, and I
have asked about this on the Aerosoft forum. No response after a couple of weeks. My other addon aircraft work properly, so I don't think this is
specifically a FsP issue than it is an Airbus issue. I have tried setting trim control directly in P3D but it doesn't work at all with the Airbus. I
have also posted this on Flightsim.com P3D forum and never got a response either. After much headache of troubleshooting and trying different methods,
I uninstalled the Airbus.
Re: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - Romczyk - 14-02-2016
The same for me. OK, But if this is Aerosoft issue - it's pitty, I like aircraft and would like to use FsP with it. Some guys propose to disable fuel planning for Aerosoft for FsP, maybe this will help a bit.
Or Will do more PMDG 737(something new else) flight though.
Post Edited ( 02-14-16 10:55 )
RE: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - syndola - 27-02-2016
I've had that happen before, plenty of times in the Aerosoft aircraft. The workaround I use is to only use the aircraft's loader or the FSPASSENGERS loader. I believe that if you use both, then your aircraft will be doubled-up, loaded from FSPASSENGERS and from the aircraft, making your airplane way overweight. I also tend to distribute the loads evenly for cargo as loading one higher than the other will make your aircraft do weird things.
RE: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - SamTDS - 27-02-2016
(27-02-2016, 10:07 PM)syndola Wrote: I've had that happen before, plenty of times in the Aerosoft aircraft. The workaround I use is to only use the aircraft's loader or the FSPASSENGERS loader. I believe that if you use both, then your aircraft will be doubled-up, loaded from FSPASSENGERS and from the aircraft, making your airplane way overweight. I also tend to distribute the loads evenly for cargo as loading one higher than the other will make your aircraft do weird things.
Do NOT use the fsp loader with advanced aircraft which manage their own fuel and load, if you do then it will not make them fly correcty. Pmdg is already set up to work fine with this system
RE: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - Joeflyer - 28-02-2016
Sam, I have used FsP to load the Aerosoft Airbus for a long time now, so your suggestion is not absolute or correct. FsP can manage just fine the loading of the Airbus or any other advanced addon as long as BOTH load parameters aren't being utilized. With a good payload model, the addon aircraft's load manager does not need to be used at all. However, since the latest update of Aerosoft's Airbus, in particular with P3D, the aircraft is not performing as it should...no matter of the payload model or addon loading. The previous version had no issues at all.
RE: FSPassengers, Can't rotate! - SamTDS - 28-02-2016
(28-02-2016, 02:29 AM)Joeflyer Wrote: Sam, I have used FsP to load the Aerosoft Airbus for a long time now, so your suggestion is not absolute or correct. FsP can manage just fine the loading of the Airbus or any other advanced addon as long as BOTH load parameters aren't being utilized. With a good payload model, the addon aircraft's load manager does not need to be used at all. However, since the latest update of Aerosoft's Airbus, in particular with P3D, the aircraft is not performing as it should...no matter of the payload model or addon loading. The previous version had no issues at all.
I followed what I remember reading the pmdg manual a while ago