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Captain Announcements - Nickio - 13-08-2005
It would be very nice and interesting to see a panel with captain announcements that have a certain effect on passengers.
Delay on Pushback Announcment (if more than 10 minutes)
-( I know that points arent taking off for delay on the ground but i think in real life if the plane is standing for more than 20 minutes peopel
would start to get a lil anxious, and maybe you could add some kind of formula to take away satisfaction)
-Adds Satisfaction by %1 for 10 min
While Taxiing (Usually what I hear)
Captain Announces:
This is the captain speaking -...
Welcome to (type of aircraft)
Today we'll be flying at altitude
Tell about weather
Cruise
Service To come
Arrival weather and time
-people feel reassured and relaxed (satisfaction +1%)
Turbulence Announcment
-People are aware that the problem is not a danger (satisfaction +1%)
Delay on Arrival
-People are warned before hand (increases the flexibilty on arrival time)
Go Around
-Kills fear -10%
-Satisfaction +1%
Approach Announcement
Thank you for flying with us we hope you enjoyed our flight and well be landing soon
satisfaction +1%
I believe that these are the basic responsiblities of a passenger jet captain that should be done. Mix it with Vatsim, good aircraft such as
LDS767, and a good weather engine, And you will not be bored during the flight quite as much. I like those things because they add to
stress and really test your ability to execute a flawless operation.
On an Advanced note, you could add the type of announcment, "agressive but informative" or "pleasant but vague"
for example when an engine goes out, the first type of of announcement will not change the fear % but in the end will have a good
impacton customer satisfaction, where as the second will kill the fear, but will do the opposite to satisfaction. So its a pilot's choice on
how to handles his/her passengers. as that is soo - oh important these days in the industry.
I will gladly accept Arguments!
Re: Captain Announcements - SE-TMA - 13-08-2005
Some of these are already in FsP. If you have CREW in your aircraft, then the "Taxiing" announcement you mentioned is basically already there. It
doesn't tell anything about cruise altitude, weather or anything like that, but she does welcome passengers and makes the standard security announcement.
Turbulence is often automatically announced with crew, since they tell the passengers to fasten seat belts due to turbulence. Even without crew, you
can press CTRL+SHIFT+B to fasten seat belts, and your co-pilot will announce turbulence.
CHeers!
Re: Captain Announcements - FlyBoy2 - 13-08-2005
there still needs to be a cockpit announcemnt for the FA's to be seated and one for FS's to prepare for Arrival, The last time a captin forgot to
mention that little thing I ended up in five business guys laps trying to run to my jumpseat. And once actul broke my back on landing in DFW Because
the Captin desided he was landing no matter what and never told the crew to be seated.
Re: Captain Announcements - SWAFO - 13-08-2005
Quote:FlyBoy2 wrote:
there still needs to be a cockpit announcemnt for the FA's to be seated and one for FS's to prepare for Arrival
That's why you press the attendant call button approximately 1 minute prior to takeoff. Therefore if you forget the announcement, they've
already been notified.
As for other announcements: If you download/purchase FS2Crew, that program adds a lot in terms of announcements made from the
flight deck. FS2Crew goes together beautifully with FSP, so you may want to check it out.
Re: Captain Announcements - Nickio - 14-08-2005
I am a user of FS2Crew and I think that its magnificent on how the 2 programs complement each other. What I would like to emphasize,
however, is that there should be a direct link to passenger's reaction on the announcment that the captain makes. To me, I think
communication inside the plane is among the top priorities even when i fly in 172 in real life, whether it is with passengers, or crew (
copilot on 172.) I have read a few articles on http://www.smartcockpit.com and a few books on CRM, and what I got from there, is that a lot of
passenger's understanding of what is going on, come's from the announcement. Infact, I believe a certain logical code could be written
on that subject. I guess, what I really mean is the captain gets to choose whether to lie to passengers and have a good flight reputation
but kill the company in the long run, or do the opposite. After a bad landing a captain could've said that this is normal, but the passengers
would find out later on, and the companies reputation would decrease.
Ofcourse there is a lot more that could be added to my idea, but that is just for example.
So, who here would like to see passenger's reaction on the announcements that the captain makes? I certainly would.
I think it adds a point to actually carefully approaching the passengers and for me it would feel like im actually there responsible for
someone and their opinion infront of the company. Which is what fspassengers has done so well. But there is always room for
improvement.
Re: Captain Announcements - Mattyboom - 14-08-2005
Yes, but FS2 crew woudnt affect your report, I agree with all the original post comments, apart from the weather, because I am not sure, Dan will be
able to make FSpassengers, interact with any weather engines...
Re: Captain Announcements - Nickio - 14-08-2005
Forget about FS2Crew, i mean for the expansion of FSpassengers. An interective panel where the user gets to choose the things to say,
just like in fs2crew.
Re: Captain Announcements - SWAFO - 14-08-2005
Naturally, keeping the PAX and crew informed is 99% of the time a beneficial thing! Think, if you're flying with a major airline, and don't
hear one word from the flight deck, or FA's, you're not going to feel as comfortable as the passenger that's flying with a major airline that
keeps him up to date on the progress of things.
I think it would be neat for FS2Crew (or FSP for that matter) to allow the crew announcements to have an effect on the PAX, however that's
asking a lot (could be a whole seperate program geared toward this), and I think there's more pressing issues that should be looked at
prior to the inclusion of this luxurious amenity. Just my 2 cents.
Re: Captain Announcements - Passenger57 - 15-08-2005
I second that original ideas, at least some of them.
As a technical background; I wondered if these variables could be extracted from the filed flight plan and/or GPS module:
-Final Cruising Altitude (when not manually altered later on)
-Distance to destination and ground speed -> quick calculation how long to fly, add 10 minutes for dumb M$ ATC
-Destination (code/name) and flight number
1) So, the PNF (or Captain) should come in once at cruising altitude and tell You something like "Welcome on board our flight ($flightnumber) to
($destinationname). We have reached our cruising altitude of ($cruisingaltitude) and should land aproximately in ($calculatedtimetodestination). We
wish You a pleasant stay on board."
2) On most flights, I heard either a "cabin crew prepare for landing" or lately "cabin crew 10 minutes". Either way, luckily for them, they knew when
they would have to pack up the stuff and get to their seats. I do not know if it's possible to get some value from the ATC engine that tells if You
are vectoring for approach. I just wondered; once You receive Your approach "expect rwy (rwynumber)(approachtype) the flight should be more or less
coming to an end. Maybe there's a distinct value on some (to me unknown) variable that could be read for triggering the "prepare for landing" message?
3) On a different matter, can the food&Drinks service manually be stopped? I had a flight yesterday with some turbulences enroute that led to the last
paxes being served on final approach (less than 5 miles out or so, dont remember the alt). I had to go extra-slow on full flaps since I descended
below 10000 just to have them finished in time.
Thanks Dan nice stuff no matter how much crap we write
Pax57
Re: Captain Announcements - SWAFO - 15-08-2005
Your ideas for announcements are good, and we appreciate your input. Dan will have to get back to you on the implementation of any
additional features, as I don't make any of those decisions.
About manual Food/Drink service. No, once service is started, it must complete. You can interupt service (by descending, or entering
turbulence), however those are automatic disruptions of service, it can't manually be stopped.
Re: Captain Announcements - alphaone - 15-08-2005
A few things that (maybe?) could easily be added that i would like...
instead of the FA coming on before takeoff and saying "we are about to take off" i think the captain should come on and say "flight attendants prepare
for takeoff" At least that's how its always been on every airline i've flown on.
I don't know if its possible to code this, but it would be cool if the turbulence got really bad the captain could come on and say "flight attendants
take your seats" just like in real life.
And the other things pax57 said too would be awesome.
Most of the things i'd like to see wouldn't have to have an affect on the pax, they'd just be there for that added realism factor.