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Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - guenseli - 06-01-2009
Hello,
1) I get penalties for a too short flight.
I have already read another thread with the same topic and the same problem.
If you wish to serve several nearby islands it isn't possible to fly longer or you fly boring extra rounds.
The solution in the other thread was to set the destination, but that doesn't work!
I know that with sightseeing tours you have to fly longer than 10 minutes, but with normal flights it doesn't make sense in my opinion.
2) Another issue is the behaviour of serving foods and drinks.
Why isn't that possible below around 5000ft?
With an flight in a small aircraft you have to keep passengers funny.
And I don't think it's unusual to have a flight with a cessna or something like this that isn't 2 hours or longer.
And why not selling food and drinks then?
So I fly my little GA and have to climb over 5000 ft to be able to serve drinks and food to keep my passengers funny.
There should be the restristion, that theres no hot food serving in little aircraft, ok.
But I have no problem servind snacks and drinks. Why not?!
3) I fly a mooney with crew aboard.
But when I make a flight and don't load the crew there is still a crew.
Isn't it possible to have a plane with crew and don't load the crew via payloadmanager and then to not have crew aboard?
Thank you very much!
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - Tracker801 - 06-01-2009
Hmmm,
Let me get this straight..................
You fly a 4-person Cessna or a 6-person Mooney with crew aboard and wanting to serve pax????
If thats the case, let me ask you if you want pax aboard that plane and if you are willing to be pilot, PNF and FA at the same time as no small plane
like that carries a crew.... a co-pilot in some cases but not that many. Besides, where would you stow food, drinks etc?? Not even mentioning making
coffee or serving hot foods.......
Many small planes, like the Cessna and the Mooney are restricted to flight below 12,000 ft due to the pressurization issue. If you stay below 10,000
ft you will be fine and you will be able to serve. Hope you brought your thermos and lunchpack though.....
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - Powerke - 06-01-2009
Using a crew on small aircraft is just silly.
those few extra dollars per flight wont make you a billionair.
Better save up on pilot points .....you need those to advance so you can fly
bigger planes ...WITH a crew.
I like to keep my flights as realistic as possible...so no crews if the plane is to
small , no time acceleration , and i always use real weather.
And drinking a hot coffee in a Cesna with some serious wind is not something i would like
to try
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - guenseli - 06-01-2009
"You fly a 4-person Cessna or a 6-person Mooney with crew aboard and wanting to serve pax????"
Yes guys, that is what I want!
And I don't think it's silly! (rough sounds in this forum...)
My problem is that I get penalties, respective sad passengers when they are not served and amused.
But I'm not aloud to serve below 5000ft or so....
Do you understand my problem now!?
"if you are willing to be pilot, PNF and FA at the same time"
No, but I'm able to load a crew onboard my cessna if I want.
I want this because without I get sad passengers.
And why not have a little service aboard a small GA???
No problem with the coffee: coffeecups with cover are alredy invented...
In other words:
I'd like to have an option to set my flight to GA.
That means then paxes are not complaining to be hungry and so on.
Or service is able below 5000ft if wanted.
I hope I can get an answer without to be called silly. Thanks!
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - Tracker801 - 06-01-2009
I doubt anyone is calling you silly
Wonder where you got that from....
It is just strange to have a crew in such a small plane, thats all.
Although you can just do GA flights with FSP it is purely based on commercial aviation. There is no option available to set the program to GA only.
I doubt Dan will have the time to rewrite part of FSP to enable serving under 5000ft AGL when flying GA.
Does that answer your question now?
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - Drew - 06-01-2009
Quote:Powerke wrote:
Using a crew on small aircraft is just silly.
Quote:Tracker801 wrote:
I doubt anyone is calling you silly
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - Tracker801 - 07-01-2009
solly
I missed that one...... silly me
Thank you Drewmeister
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - Powerke - 07-01-2009
Did not call you silly ....i said using a crew on a small plane is silly
If you use a crew on an airplane ...its not more than logical that you have to load the crew.
And offering service to a few PAX on a small plane is not practical ...but if its your choise to
give this service to your PAX ...go for it.
Some smart ppl got rich doing silly things...
15 years ago everybody would call a doubledecker airplane that could carry 800 ppl silly.
But Airbus did ... and i dont think Airbus is silly (still the plane looks funny to me
)But thats all abit
I dont think Dan designed the FSPX service option with small aircraft like the 172 or the Bravo in mind.
Thats why you have the alltitude restriction ....and the fact that a crew is needed on board to serve the PAX.
Maybe you can disable that restriction in a config file somewhere ....dont know that.
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - SkyAirWorld - 07-01-2009
When I used to fly 12 seaters all the way down to 2 seaters...
We had no crew... Brace yourself... the PIC (Pilot in Command) was the only airline employee onboard, and was the crew...We pre-load a
cooler bag, depending on ages and time, with either beers, crackers, muffins, cookies, water, little cans of soft drink, and if your lucky and
we havent stolen them all.. chocolate....and mid way through the flight, we just chuck the bag out into the middle of the cabin, and watch
them go for like a pack of seaguls....
We did that for the RPT and charters...
The Mining charters we're quite hilerious with the bags
Amazing the things we found in the bandits seat pockets after landing....
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - guenseli - 07-01-2009
Quote:I dont think Dan designed the FSPX service option with small aircraft like the 172 or the Bravo in mind.
So why should we then start with small aircraft like the 172 in carrer mode?
But I've understand then.
Passengers have to be hungry in smaller planes over longer flights....
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - Tracker801 - 07-01-2009
Indeed.
Or have them pack their own lunches
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - SkyAirWorld - 07-01-2009
Tracker, they need to pack a spare pair of undies with you
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - Tracker801 - 07-01-2009
nah, they get complimentary barfbags with me Sky
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - SkyAirWorld - 07-01-2009
Topic restored
Re: Flight too short , VFR Service and crew or not crew - Tracker801 - 07-01-2009
Good boy Sky
The only times I ever flew small GA aircraft was during flight training and the first few weeks of solo many years ago.
I can't remember to have actually ever had any crew aboard.... not counting my girl handing me my coffee from a thermos.
Guess thats why I married her somewhat later..... she was (and still is :grin: ) my personal FA