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Problem is not with FSP X , GOT OOM message after uninstalling FSP X. - corrie - 28-12-2008

I retract my statement here as on my third long haul after uninstalling FSP X , I got a OOM. I am now using the /3gig switch , seems fine for know with FSP X reinstalled.




Here is a big problem with FSP X and it needs to be looked at very carefully.



I am running FSX SP2 , Vista Ultimate 32bit 100 % up to date , 8800 GTX
Nvidia , No virus scanners or other programs running . This setup has been
running for at leat 27 months without ANY problems whatsover , I always fly online with
IVAO,normally doing 14 hour long hauls between BIKF - FAJS.


I recently purchased three new addons namely PMDG MD 11 , Real Enviroment
Extreme , Active Sky Advanced and these long hauls continued without any
problems evening after evening weekend after weekend. I then purchased FSP X as I
know this is a excellent product and I own the FS9 version also ,but for the first time in my PC`s history
after installing FSP X , I get a OOM message (Out of Memory message ) FSX need to
restart please lower settings. This seems to happen after about 4 hours in the flight online. I then
googled around their is alot of articles from Phil Taylor , Microsoft and here :
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208959973
http://blogs.msdn.com/ptaylor/archive/2007/06/15/fsx-and-win32-process-address-space.aspx http://flyawaysimulation.com/postt30268.html
http://forums.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?t=179112&highlight=OOM
https://www.horizonsimulation.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2546&view=next&sid=49bc9e2276a2d6cc9631ce7ff8bd659f
http://forum.ivao.aero/index.php/topic,96071.0.html


giving , saying this and that.



I have even considered upgrading to 64 bit , BEFORE making any decisions I
decided to follow a route , after playing around with settings as advised in
the above forums / blogs I redid my routes BIKF - FAJS online and I got the OOM three times
again this was really a blow to me.Cry

I then decided to uninstall FS Passengers X as a last resort today.After uninstalling the product today I reloaded
my route online BIKF - FAJS with my PMDG MD 11 and ASA and REX online with IVAO I completed a 14 hours flight without ANY
OOM`s or problems." I have done 2 long haul flights now without FSP X system runs fine". So after testing my setup extensively
I can say with much certainty that here is a problem with FSP X on my system .




I am taking time here to explain my situation[/color] in as much detail as possible as I love FSP X and I need it to work. I very
rarely had a issue like this were FSX had any problems only a very long time
ago when I got my PC`s for the first time I used to get blue screens due to drivers but that
was sorted out years ago.



So I strongly believe here is a problem and I believe that from my side I
cannot correct it , I need the input from you guys or FSP X support to give
me the direction that
needs to be followed from here onwards.
Help Help Help



Thanks for a excellent product thus far even if I could only use it on short
routes. Hoping this matter can be solved.Top



Regards



Johan



Post Edited ( 12-28-08 17:40 )


Re: Here is a big problem with FSP X and it needs to be looked at very carefully - HB-100 - 28-12-2008

just one input from my side that might help.

I own the PMDG MD11 also and I experienced that it uses a lot memory and that much that when I run FSX standard but just with some
ground phototextures it run into an OOM and this without FSPX.

Now I didn't test further because I don't run my FSX exe in standard usually but with the 'can handle more than 2GByte' flag in the exe
header set. Check Microsofts 4GT Ram tuening. This flag makes sense to set when you own a 64Bit system like I do (Vista 64bit) with
enough memory (have 8GByte). I can run the PMDG MD11 + good photoground textures only with this modifiaction in the exe. At least I
concluded thsi from the OOM I got. I never got OOM with that flag set.


Re: Here is a big problem with FSP X and it needs to be looked at very carefully - JeffMcBride - 28-12-2008

The above add-ons are some pretty heavy duty FSX add-ons that you mentioned. I am wondering if you were on the edge the whole time
using these, and one more (FsPX) "sent you off the cliff".

How much system RAM and video ram are you running with?

Also, it would probably be a good idea to post your FSX.cfg file along with your FsPX log file so that Dan can check them out.

JeffMc




Re: Here is a big problem with FSP X and it needs to be looked at very carefully - corrie - 28-12-2008

Quote:JeffMcBride wrote:
The above add-ons are some pretty heavy duty FSX add-ons that you mentioned. I am wondering if you were on the edge the whole time
using these, and one more (FsPX) "sent you off the cliff".

How much system RAM and video ram are you running with?

Also, it would probably be a good idea to post your FSX.cfg file along with your FsPX log file so that Dan can check them out.

JeffMc


My system is capable of running these addons , I thinkWonder even now with these add-ons I can do alot of other stuff whilst FSX are running , it is only
once FSP X goes on , so I am not convinced about this
Quote:I am wondering if you were on the edge the whole time
using these, and one more (FsPX) "sent you off the cliff".
.


My system runs all of the above add-ons and never falls under 40FPS.


Info as asked for:


Intel® Core™2 X6800 Extreme Processor version , clocked to 3.20 Ghz

GeForce 8800 GTX 575 1350 900 768MB 384-bit 86.4 36.8

FsPX log file not available as FSp X is uninstalled if Dan asks I will reinstall it again.

System RAM 4000 MB

System info RAM see pic.


[img][Image: fspxnv9.jpg][/img]



[img][Image: fspx1zl7.jpg][/img]




Here is my FSX .Cfg






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LabelColor=FFFF0000
LabelDelay=1000
ShowLabelAirline=0
ShowLabelAirlineAndFlightNumber=0
ShowLabelAirspeed=0
ShowLabelAltitude=1
ShowLabelContainerId=0
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ShowLabelFlightPlan=0
ShowLabelHeading=0
ShowLabelManufacturer=0
ShowLabelModel=1
ShowLabels=1
ShowLabelTailNumber=1
ShowUserLabel=0

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AutoOpenAirTrafficWindow=0
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COMM_MSG_ATC_AI_COLOR=FF00FF00
COMM_MSG_ATC_USER_COLOR=FFB6FFB6
COMM_MSG_NONE_COLOR=FFFFFFFF
COMM_MSG_USER_ATC_COLOR=FFFFD21B
PilotVoice=0
ShowATCText=0
UsePilotVoice=1

[CONTROLS]
Controls_Current=Standard
Controls_Default=Standard
force_crash_enabled=0
force_gear_bump_enabled=0
force_ground_bumps_enabled=0
force_master_gain=10000
force_stick_force_enabled=0
force_stick_shaker_enabled=0
KBDAIL=64
KBDELEV=64
KBDRUD=64
force_master_enabled=0

[Display]
ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64
ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255
BLOOM_EFFECTS=0
ChangeTime=4.000000
InfoBrakesEnable=True
InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128
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SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=30
TransitionTime=4.000000
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=31
WideViewAspect=False

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Mode=1024x768x32
TriLinear=1

[DynamicHeadMovement]
HeadMoveTimeConstant=1.000000
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MaxHeadOffset=0.300000
RollAccelOnHeadLat=0.010000
RollAccelOnHeadRoll=0.100000
YawAccelOnHeadLat=-0.100000

[FACILITIES]
CITY=
COUNTRY=
GTL_BUTTON=1244
STATE=

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EFFECTS_QUALITY=1
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IMAGE_QUALITY=0
LANDING_LIGHTS=1
NUM_LIGHTS=8
See_Self=1
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TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024
TEXTURE_QUALITY=3
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D3D10=0

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ASLAT=3
ASLON=0
MEASURE=0

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HideMenuFullscreen=1
HideMenuNormal=0
Location=0,0,1024,768,\\.\DISPLAY1
Maximized=1
PerfBucket=7
ProcSpeed=8992
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FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.33

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IMAGE_QUALITY=1
PANEL_MASKING=1
PANEL_OPACITY=100
PANEL_STRETCHING=1
QUICKTIPS=0
UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0

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GEffect=True
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Torque=1.000000
TrueAirspeed=False
UnlimitedFuel=False
AllowEngineDamage=False

[SCENERY]
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=2
LENSFLARE=1

[SIM]
SYSCLOCK=0

[SlewTextInfo.1]
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Heading=1,4
Latitude=1,1
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[SOUND]
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SOUND_FADER1=0.050000
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SOUND_FADER3=0.110000
SOUND_FADER4=0.110000
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VoiceDevice={00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}

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DEMO=0
LoadWindow=1
SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1
STARTUP_DEMO=

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Thanking you in advance.

Johan



Post Edited ( 12-28-08 06:58 )


Re: Here is a big problem with FSP X and it needs to be looked at very carefully - jaskanFactor - 28-12-2008

Hi


One simple way to daignose if the problem is with fspax or your system, is to reduce your settings in fsx and try the flight again.

I have noticed that fsx has some very strange ways of failing when your system cant handle the load. I have a med range pc, and i have
had to cut my trafficX traffic in half in order to get descent frame rate in fsx using fspax.


Re: Here is a big problem with FSP X and it needs to be looked at very carefully - HB-100 - 28-12-2008

Every 32Bit Application like FSX is limited to 2GByte. So FSX can run into an OOM also when you have plenty of free system ram in total
left.
You have a 32Bit system. But nevertheless for a quick 'solution' try it with the 'can handle more than 2GByte' Flag. It makes more sense
with a 64Bit System and more memory but it also does something on a vista 32Bit System. I bet you dont runinto the OOM anymore. I
am not sure thought if you have to do a change in the boot.ini in vista 32bit. I believe you have to change the boot.ini in XP only. You shoudl
read that up.