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Awwwww. Come on! - Russ - 17-12-2006
What did I do wrong?
Read:
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Flight ID: AA816
Pilot: Paul (RIP)
Company: American
Aircraft: 767-200 GEA2 American Airlines
Flight Date: December 16 2006
Departure: 09h55 (15h55 GMT)
Arrival: --
From: KMSP - Minneapolis St Paul Intl - Usa
To: KFSD
Nbr of Passengers: 127
Accident Report:
The aircraft crashed at 10h48 hitting ground at 138 kt with a vert. speed of -426 ft/m.
There were no known failures on this aircraft at the time of the accident.The cause of the crash remains unknown, most probably it was due to human
error. No emergency was declared before the crash.
Casualties:
-127 passengers aboard
-73 killed
-50 injured
-Pilot and flight crew were killed
Report:
Flight Distance: 170 Nm Landing Speed: --
Time Airborne: 00h52:03 Landing Touchdown: --
Flight Time (block): 00h52:43 Landing Pitch: --
Time On Ground: 00h01:20 Landing Weight: --
Average Speed: 196.22 kt Total Fuel Used: 9553 lbs
Max. Altitude: FL 280 Fuel Not Used: 100415 lbs
Climb Time: 00h17:45 Climb Fuel Used: 5599 lbs
Cruise Time: 00h10:02 Cruise Fuel Used: 693 lbs
Average Cruise Speed: 297.75 kt (M0.47) Cruise fuel/hour: 4148 lbs (calc)
Descent Time: 00h24:16 Descent Fuel Used: 3259 lbs
Passenger Opinion: Terror and grief. (0%)
-Were in a better mood because they had food.
-Were pleased by the music on ground. A very nice addition to their flying experience.
Crash Financial Report:
Taking into account the state of the aircraft and its current resale value after the crash. The insurance company decided to pay a total of
20'776'925€ which represents 30.82% of the resale value. You can now decide to repair or sell the wreck. The insurance will pay all other damages. The
insurance rate increased by 1.16% and is now 5.48%.
Total Sim Income: 20'776'925€
Company Reputation:
Due to the crash, your company reputation is now: 49% (-10.66 decrease)
Overall Flight Result: Crash
Pilot's Penalty points: -850 points
· Crash! You hit the ground with an impact speed of -426 ft/mn. There was no failure aboard this aircraft before the crash and many passengers died
because of pilot error. (-850)
In memory of the pilot who died these penalty points will not
be recorded in his log and his last rank will be maintained.
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As you can see, I came right down the glide slope. In my humble opinion, this was not a crash.
Sometimes FS Passengers can be too strict!
Love it, but....!
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Canada_Boy - 17-12-2006
maybe your tail hit the ground on landing
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Russ - 17-12-2006
Quote:Canada_Boy wrote:
maybe your tail hit the ground on landing
Nope, it looked good to me!
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Canada_Boy - 17-12-2006
hmmmm
well -426 ft/mn isnt going to kill anyone
were you useing addon airport scenery
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Drew - 17-12-2006
Tail hitting ground would show a tail strike on report
I know you will say yes, but , was your gear down?
Thats the only reason i can think it would report a crash
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Russ - 17-12-2006
Gear down? DEFINITELY, I didn't even bounce. Rolled along runway for about 2 seconds, then CRASH!!!
No addon scenery.
Maybe a one-off anomaly?
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Mac - 17-12-2006
You're flying the Project Opensky 767, correct?
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Hannes44 - 17-12-2006
Just had similar happen to me when landing in VGZR Dhaka I landed with -211ft/min (nice landing the report said) gear was down, mo tailstrike etc. all
was very smooth and I even got those 50some extra points for a nice landing but 1second later the aircraft crashed (or so said the report from
outsideview it stood perfectly ok on the runway). Is there a problem with POSKY planes? I flew the 737-800
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - gronji2004 - 17-12-2006
If you deployed your spoilers too quickly or applied reverse thrust, it would send the front section of the aircraft downwards with lots of
force, therefore breaking the front landing gear, causing you to crash. Can you remember how fast you were going??
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Hannes44 - 17-12-2006
I was going 144 Knots when landing; no reverse thrust applied; spoilers armed. They deploy automatically.
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Ceemosp - 17-12-2006
Hello Hannes,
read this topic from the POSKY forum. It covers the 767 but also applies to the 737. It's a question of weight vs. vertical speed with which
the nosegear hits the runway.
I hope this helps
http://forum.projectopensky.com/index.php?showtopic=12721
Regards
Carsten
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Russ - 17-12-2006
Quote:Ceemosp wrote: I hope this helps
http://forum.projectopensky.com/index.php?showtopic=12721
Regards
Carsten
Yes, my model was from POSKY. Read this, thank you for link. This seems to answer my problem.
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Valoran - 17-12-2006
(slighlty OT) Wow! Those guys on the POSKY forums are much ruder than anyone here. Reminds one what a unique and special thing
we all have here with FSPax beyond just the great program! Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah (sp?) all!
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - Russ - 17-12-2006
Quote:Valoran wrote:
(slighlty OT) Wow! Those guys on the POSKY forums are much ruder than anyone here. Reminds one what a unique and special thing
we all have here with FSPax beyond just the great program! Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah (sp?) all!
Yes indeed to BOTH remarks!
Thanks to everybody who replied to this topic, and thanks to the creators of FS Pax....I just LOVE the programme.
And a Happy Christmas to all simmers from me too!
Re: Awwwww. Come on! - DBE - 17-12-2006
Quote:Valoran wrote:
Reminds one what a unique and special thing we all have here with FSPax beyond just the great program!
My thoughts exactly!
That's precisely why I hang out over here rather than anywhere else....