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"Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - Agrajag - 03-07-2006
I hear this on just about every flight I take in the US. Is there some reason that it's not presented in FS Passengers?
I often hear the opposite, "Flight Crew, prepare the cabin for landing" and that's not there either.
It's generally spoken by the Captain so am I just supposed to say it out loud to myself?
I'd also like to see the changes of 9/11 represented here. The crew can't just barge into the cockpit with coffee and little Johnny can't be given a
tour of the cockpit either, even if the first officer is a pedophile.
In fact, it's possibly a chance to add a sample to deal with locking the cockpit door which seems to be a process now.
Re: - xhado13 - 03-07-2006
Check in the more More downloads,
Its not easy to do all these things you know, you could make it yourself if it isnt there, and this isnt like Mcdonalds where you can just
order it and its served for you man.
So cool it and check whats there
Post Edited ( 07-03-06 23:31 )
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - Agrajag - 04-07-2006
Xhado,
I have no idea why you're giving me attitude but it's entirely unnecessary.
I'm in the game development industry and have been since 1983. I know what is and isn't possible.
As a customer I'm simply posting comments about the things I'd like to see. Where in ANY of my posts (most especially the one above that you replied
to) have I made any demands what-so-ever?
I'm trying to fully understand the setup and limitations of the current product offering. As far as sample sets, trust me, I know fully well how
complex those can be. The ones in FS Passengers are TINY compared to many other products out there (and that's a good thing). I've already looked into
the process to create new ones. I created a set for Radar Contact and that involved somewhere on the order of 1200+ samples that also had to be edited
to deal with things like phrase linking on the fly, etc.
Again, I don't get your entire concept of "cool it". WTF is that supposed to mean? Am I supposed to NOT mention the things that would make the product
better in my view in a section of the forum where part of its purpose is to post such commentary?
Please.... If you have issues with reading feature requests I suggest that you're reading the wrong forum section.
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - xhado13 - 04-07-2006
Well no attitude intended, It just sounded very demanding, and these guys got lots of work to do, on and off this program.
As for the more downloads section, you can easily make a search on sounds (if you havent already)
Your main question "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" should be in there as one of the most recent sound updates to add to your flying experience.
As for updates which may or may not be in your question, ugh this link should talk all about it (once again if you havent already seen it)
http://www.fspassengers.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4874
Once again sorry sorta going off like that I have a tendency to do that..lol
Just trying to help, which wasnt so good the first time
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - Agrajag - 04-07-2006
I understand fully that the guys have a lot of work to do. As software developers of this type I'm guessing that they're very much like most of the
guys I deal with and appreciate hearing input from paying customers on feature requests. All I hope is that the requests get compiled somewhere and
get looked at when it's time for the next version.
I'm glad to hear about the download being available regarding my question. I did look in the downloads a couple days back and didn't see that but I
was new and had no real idea what I was looking at or for yet. < grin >
On the attitude, don't sweat it. Same situation here. Just so we're clear, I'm sold on this being a great concept. I'm current sold on it being a
solid product. I've been doing development for so long that it takes an awful lot to get me to gush over a product early on and so it's not surprising
that I wouldn't just say, "Holy crap, this is an amazing product." Anyone holding out for that is going to be in for a long wait. hehehe
However, those who know me would tell you very clearly that if I said nothing, that would speak volumes about my concern for a product. It's when I
take the time to post several comments that you can tell that I'm impressed.
Just a quick thing here:
There's a bit of history that I've learned a LOT from that keeps popping up. If someone develops a product that attempts to model something and they
do an average job at it, consumers are pretty forgiving and quiet about it. It ends up being viewed as an okay product. Few people are critical of it
but few are also all that blown away by it. However, the closer someone gets to perfection with modeling, the more scrutiny the product falls under.
Suddenly people get interested and the perceived short-comings start to matter and start to stick out like sore thumb. Emotions run higher than with
the product that did an average job of it. Just look at Flight Simulator to see this in action. Several other sims have been around and most did
decently in the marketplace. Sierra did a decent job. Looking Glass did a decent job. Terminal Reality did a decent job. They didn't have a huge
following screaming about every single minor element of the product. They pretty much accepted those products as they were presented--and where are
they today? They're gone. Microsoft has gotten closer to goal and every little, tiny corner of a feature that's off gets countless people screaming
bloody murder about it and how it has to change for the next version. hehehe
In other words, the FSP guys are in the ballpark with their efforts. They've got our attention and now we want the world because we can see in them a
vehicle for reaching the world. That's a very good thing.
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - Airliner - 05-07-2006
Quote:It's generally spoken by the Captain so am I just supposed to say it out loud to myself?
Just keep telling yourself, "I WILL be okay." That's what I do - my wife disagrees, though. About those two audio calls though, I suppose they could be linked in with the automatic FA messages - for example, when you start to
descend, the FA announces, "Now descending to our destination." Something like that could be set to play only after the captain calls for
it, I guess. Also, maybe further restrictions could be put in place - meaning, if you just go ahead and land without call for the cabin to be
secured for arrival, you would receive a penalty, among other things. Maybe, you could have the added possiblity of a flight attendant
getting slammed against a wall because the captain didn't advise that they were about to takeoff and therefore, weren't strapped in.
Fine tuning, I guess.
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - Agrajag - 05-07-2006
I did find these calls available for download (at least the outbound one) but they seem tied to other procedures and I haven't actually heard them get
used yet. Not sure what's up with that.
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - Joeflyer - 05-07-2006
I do have the sound "Flight Attendants Prepare For Departure" in my FSP....this is heard after I turn off the cabin music and prior to
entering the runway environment for takeoff. I like it
As far as other calls enroute or on descent to destination, I can take it or leave it. I guess I'll take it if it's available
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - Agrajag - 05-07-2006
Hmm, maybe that's it. I never turn on music to begin with since I've never heard it used here in the States. Is hearing that sample tied to that step?
All I do before takeoff is switch the transponder to Mode-C and add 5% flaps. Not sure how FSP would know I was ready to go.
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - jboweruk - 13-07-2006
I find between the two (FSPax and FSHotseat) I get all the sounds I want. Some that aren't handled by one are handled by the other. Total
immersion.
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - highlander - 13-07-2006
Agrajag,
Why not switch on the music? It makes the passengers happy! And, if you've had a bit of turbulence during your flight, it can get them to shift
their opinion of your flight back up to 100%.
For anyone who has never heard music before pushback and during taxi, KLM plays background music to accompany the video they play of swans and geese
on the canals in Holland, and early footage of KLM's aircraft in action. It's quite nice, but I'm normally too busy with my face pressed up against
the window to notice :D
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - Agrajag - 13-07-2006
I just never happens on flights I fly so it almost seems like a cheat to me. I'd almost rather have a "Calm the Passengers" option, though I can think
of this like that.
Now I also need to get my hotkeys working. The only one I can get to work so far is the seat belt hotkey. The others do nothing.
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - Turbine - 14-07-2006
I never flown on KLM I've heard good things though about them... I am from the U.S. and Im sure alot of others also are from the U.S. same with the
U.K. and etc. I flown on Delta, Southwest, continental and I can go on... When I first purchased F.S. passengers I loved it and the makers of it....
More power to them I cant wait to see the next update. Im sure in the U.K. they play music before takeoff or have some kinda nature calling sounds
in the cabin when theres a situaration that might scare the passengers in real life. But comeon... I can guarntee that every single U.S. airline
does not play music before takeoff and if they do the passengers have a choice to go through the channels and either get to listen to the pilots talk
with ATC or like 1 other guy said taxi to the runway hear the flight attendants say make sure you seat is in the upright position make sure the doors
for the luggage is secure and ofcourse the pilot says..... Flight attendants prepare for departure or.... We are outta here. But I think there
should also be a U.S. version because Im sure the U.K. has different ways or a different style of treating their passengers in a different way. Then
the U.S. I'm sorry no affense but playing music before takeoff in the U.S. is just fake....
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - Agrajag - 14-07-2006
Let me make an exaggeration to make the point. Remember, I'm going to be a bit silly here for a purpose.
Above the suggestion is to play music because the program then will use that effect to calm the passengers. Okay, but that, to me, isn't really the
point of FSP. That's just a mechanism that, for US users, detracts from the immersion factor (which for me is HUGE).
It'd be no different than having a HOT-key that results in protitutes and male dancers being sent out to fellate the male passengers and perform
whatever other task is required to improve their disposition. While I might have to think about flying such an airline I wouldn't use that key either
when flying with FSP unless I happen to be flying a Hooters airline jet.
That's one of the reasons I suggested the option of being able to add other creature comforts to the equation. Let me pay to have my "fleet" (of one
plane) retrofitted with multi-channel audio services, video services, etc. That would have the same effect and be as realistic here as playing music
is in other areas.
Re: "Flight Crew, prepare for take-off" - Dutch64 - 14-07-2006
Well, you can play a movie, it will distract the pax from turbulence a bit. (make sure you have enough time for the movie though)
And about the prepare for take off announcement. Just before turning on the runway, stop the background music and the announcement will be made
