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Suggestion to extra feature - Donatelo - 20-02-2006
Hi Dan,
Might you add a function for the captain to change the arrival time during flight? So the passengers and the company will know that you'll
come late, like happens in reality?
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - FsP Dennis - 20-02-2006
I HOPE!
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - WBHoenig - 20-02-2006
Cheating
What if a pilot, a few feet prior to touchdown, paused the sim and entered the arrival time. That would make him surely have the extra points, even
though he would have probably lost points had he entered the time beforehand. Imagine this en route at FL350:
Ding, Ding, "Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Captain Doe speaking. We have decided that this flight will be routed to D/FW, and we will be there in
just under three hours time. I will alert you further if our destination or time changes. Thank you for flying American Airlines!"
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - crowebird - 20-02-2006
Actully he could make it so arrival time could be changed up to an hour before touchdown, so once airborn, you can only say that you will
arrive in an hour minium, you couldnt say we will be there in 30 minutes, etc...
Or program it to allow arrival time change (if maybe 10 - 20 minutes different to original), but if you changed that time 40 minutes before
arrival you would get hit with penatly points at the end for trying to get points
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - Drew - 20-02-2006
Quote:WBHoenig wrote:
Cheating
Say will, who consently goes on about using time acceleration
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - Covoxer - 20-02-2006
Quote:Say will, who consently goes on about using time accelerationTime acceleration is not a cheat.
It reduces the overal realism, but it really does not give you any significant advantage.
You may go for a walk while your FS continue to fly on AP. This is not much better than a time acceleration.
Besides, you have a penalty for using it on the long flights.
So it is obviusly intended to be used by some users on their decision.
I would say that it can't be a cheat simply because Dan allows us to use it.
So...
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - Stentor - 20-02-2006
What's the point? If you want to use the arrival time feature use it and work out accurately how long it will take, if you want flexibility then dont
set an arrival time. As Will said, it would effectively be a cheat round a fun feature, and a pointless one at that.
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - WBHoenig - 20-02-2006
Quote:Covoxer wrote:
Quote:Say will, who consently goes on about using time accelerationTime acceleration is not a cheat.
It reduces the overal realism, but it really does not give you any significant advantage.
You may go for a walk while your FS continue to fly on AP. This is not much better than a time acceleration.
Besides, you have a penalty for using it on the long flights.
So it is obviusly intended to be used by some users on their decision.
I would say that it can't be a cheat simply because Dan allows us to use it.
So...
Thank you. I use it because I have so little time nowadays to complete a nice long flight. In the real world, your job is to fly and you don't have
time constraints to do your job. This is just my hobby and I have so much homework and am always so busy it is hard to do a 3 1/2 hour flight
straight through.
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - Drew - 20-02-2006
Quote:Covoxer wrote:
Quote:Say will, who consently goes on about using time accelerationTime acceleration is not a cheat.
It reduces the overal realism, but it really does not give you any significant advantage.
You may go for a walk while your FS continue to fly on AP. This is not much better than a time acceleration.
Besides, you have a penalty for using it on the long flights.
So it is obviusly intended to be used by some users on their decision.
I would say that it can't be a cheat simply because Dan allows us to use it.
So...
of course its cheating, your getting 'hours' on your pilot log, that you have not flown, therefore letting you progress up the ladder far
quicker, therefore cheating
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - WBHoenig - 20-02-2006
But what's the difference of sitting at FL350 with VNAV and LNAV on for a long time or a short time?
I'm not saying that is what I do. Usually, I put time accell on for a certain period of time with AP and AT, then turn all three off and hope for
turbulence to fly in. Then, I repeat
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - Drew - 20-02-2006
the differance is, that you have flown the time it says on the log, not pressed a button to be 100nm away from your destination, got 6
hours of credit for half an hours work
i do use time accel sometimes, but like on the world tour, only on flights that i have already done, without using time accell, then crashed
or something, but in that case, i have already done the hours in real time
as for your comment about not having time, due to school etc, i would say if you dont ave the time for a 7 hour flight, dont do a 7 hour
flight, do a 2 hour flight, or whatever you do have time for
all the above is MY opinion
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - DanSteph - 21-02-2006
Quote:Covoxer wrote:
Quote:Say will, who consently goes on about using time accelerationTime acceleration is not a cheat.
As said thousand time yet
time acceleration penalty is more a rewards for people that staylikes bugs glued on their screen at normal time verifying all the flight and taking car of their passengers
than a penalty for people that use time acceleration.
Of course one may thinks it's unfair, but would it be fair that a guy that spent 1000 hours
in front of his computer have less points and flight time than one that have spent spent 50
hours only ?
After all if you don't have time to fish, you catch less fish, that's life.
Anyway unlike fishing or chess or most things in the world you can disable
this "penalty" in FsP,isn't life wonderful ?
Dan
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - Covoxer - 21-02-2006
Quote:of course its cheating, your getting 'hours' on your pilot log, that you have not flown, therefore letting you progress up the ladder farOk. But what about the RW pilots?
quicker, therefore cheating
I mean, if you are a pilot in a 10 hours flight in 747, you may go and sleep for a few hours duringa flight.
Is this time logged?
Is the time wile plane is on AP and you are away (say in lavatory pr just walking through the cabin and picking a nice girls from the 1st
class
) logged as well? Is it?
In FsP you have all the flight time logged despite the fact what you have been doing during this time.
just think about time acceleration as abut taking a nap in reality. When you awake, you have a few hours skipped.
That's how time acceleration in reality works
Even though I do not use time acceleration (so I mostly have to stick with a short flights
) I du it only because I feel it less realistic and interesting for myself, I still understan all who uses it. As I say, it does not brake the rules like laws of physics, so if there's a problem, you
may still crash during this hypersonic flight e.t.c.
As to the flight hours.
Well, you may earn your flight hours making endless number of short, 40 minutes bush hoops somwere in northern Canada or Alaska,
and have a challenge of makin about 200 takeoffs and landings in bad or even extreme weather conditions, on short and badly marked
runways with no ILS just to earn your C9 a Captain rating...
Meanwhile, someone else can fly 747 from the start, and get the same rating after some 15 flights, made form/to the huge, perfectly
equipped airports, with a normal wweather conditions and maybe even using autoland feature....
Now tell me, is it a cheating?
I would also add, that things like FMS, GPS and even A/P are all aimed to remove workload from the pilot. So they are made to
make "time acceleration" possible... That's why I hate them
I mean, the's no way to go to bad or to use time acceleration if you fly Sirit Of St.Luis across the Atlantic ocean on it's 30 hours flight! You
have stay at controlls all the time! All 30 hours!!!
But if you fly some A340 from NewYork to Tokyo, you may newer touch controls from the takeoff down to landing... And that's the way how
it is in RW! You don't even need to tweak your AP, since MFC does it for your! So what's the point to argue about the time acceleration, if
there's no point to stay in the cockpit except for emergency situations, at all?
Nah! Do not blame FS9 or FsP or even particular players for using time compression. Blame airplane manufacturers for make it
possible!
That's how I feel it...
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - Dutch64 - 21-02-2006
If you use it structural every flight just to get your hours logged than it's a cheat, no matter what pilots in rw do. If they take a nap, you can do
also, they are still not able to accelerate time in rw
If you sometimes do because unexpectedly running out of time or something, that would be fine I guess but what's the point of flying at 128x
acceleration 300 times around the world in one hour?
Re: Suggestion to extra feature - eazy - 21-02-2006
I really don't care who uses time acceleration and who doesn't. Some ppl like the feeling to have done long flights (although I ignore how you
get this feeling by doing an 8hrs flight in 1hr). Others like short flights because most interesting things are take-off and landing anyway.
But if you would try to do some sort of competition using FSP career mode, it would be cheating. With my default pilot I have points for level C14
or 15, but I'm still at C12 because I don't have the hours.
Again: I think it doesn't matter for normal use of FSP but in a competition it would be a cheat.