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Crash isn't always means crash - yaoi161519 - 17-09-2005

It was an old problem I've encountered and I don't know if someone has actually bring this problem but I thought this one is quite
interesting.

Take a look at this log
http://www2.indoflyer.net/fspax/?listflight=21

Company: Garuda Flight Id: FS706 Flight Date: 2005-08-29 Pilot: Rio Gunawan
Aircraft Name: PT154B-2novc GA2 tu154
Aircraft Type: MEJ
Departure: WIII - Soekarno Hatta Intl - Indonesia
Arrival: WRRR - Bali Intl - Indonesia
Departure Time: 11:53:00 (04:54:00 GMT)
Arrival Time: 13:14:00 (06:14:00 GMT)

Passengers: 124
Cargo: 25081 lbs
Flight Result: Crash
Take-Off Weight: 220067 lbs
Landing Weight: 198061 lbs
Take-Off fuel: 56251 lbs
Landing Fuel: 34147 lbs
TotalBlockTime: 01:19:25
TotalBlockTimeNight: 00:00:00
TotalAirbornTime: 01:17:55
TotalTimeOnGround: 00:02:55
MaxAltitude: 28326ft
LandingSpeed: 112 kt
LandingPitch: 7.75°
TouchDownVertSpeedFt: -389.23 ft/mn
CaptainSentMayday: 0
CrashFlag: 1
PassengersOpinion: 0%
PassengersOpinionText: --Hated that they did not see the entire movie.
-Were in a better mood because they had food.
-Were pleased by the music on ground. A very nice addition to their flying experience.

FailureText: -
CasualtiesText: --124 passengers aboard
-23 killed
-30 injured
-Pilot and flight crew were safe


Pilot Bonus: 0
PilotBonusText: -
Pilot Penality: 850
PilotPenalityText: -Crash! You hit the ground with an impact speed of -389 ft/mn. There was no failure aboard this aircraft before the crash
and many passengers died because of pilot error. (-850)

The problem was a taking off AI aircraft sliced a bit of my rudder as i taxi out of the runaway. I know it's lethal, but the hit isn't even severe
enough to completely detach the rudder if it happen in real life (Sorry, I can't provide a screenshot).

In my opinion this is not a crash. Of course the pax will be shocked or got some minor injury. But killed ?... no way..... well maybe if they
got heart attack or something.




Re: Crash isn't always means crash - pdjpeter - 25-09-2005

The problem was a taking off AI aircraft sliced a bit of my rudder as i taxi out of the runaway. I know it's lethal, but the hit isn't even severe
enough to completely detach the rudder if it happen in real life (Sorry, I can't provide a screenshot).

wow neevr had that happen on fsp


Re: Crash isn't always means crash - Dutch64 - 25-09-2005

Typical for passengers that after a crash they still complain that they didn't see the end of the movieSmile




Re: Crash isn't always means crash - yaoi161519 - 26-09-2005

Well, maybe it was my fault. I landed without clearence and against the traffic




Re: Crash isn't always means crash - pdjpeter - 26-09-2005

lol good of been


Re: Crash isn't always means crash - Cookie - 27-09-2005

I've got a similer "accident" with AIs.

Flight NH502 End of flight report Date 25 September 2005

Flight ID: NH502
Pilot: John Mark
Company: All Nippon Airways
Aircraft: PMDG 747-400 All Nippon "Pokemon 3"
Flight Date: 25 September 2005
Departure: 11h45 (02h46 GMT)
Arrival: --
From: RJAA - New Tokyo Intl - Japan
To: YSSY - Kingsford Smith Intl Airp - Australia
Nbr of Passengers: 255

Accident Report:

The aircraft smashed into a building at 21h57 with a speed of 5 kt.
There were no known failures on this aircraft at the time of the accident.The cause of the crash remains unknown, most probably it was
due to human error. No emergency was declared before the crash.

Casualties:
-255 passengers aboard
-20 killed
-30 injured
-Pilot and flight crew were safe


Report:

Flight Distance: 4,228 Nm Landing Speed: --
Time Airborne: 09h01:17 Landing Touchdown: --
Flight Time (block): 09h12:08 Landing Pitch: --
Time On Ground: 00h12:02 Landing Weight: --
Average Speed: 468.45 kt Total Fuel Used: 227565 lbs
Max. Altitude: FL 370 Fuel Not Used: 22433 lbs
Climb Time: 00h17:47 Climb Fuel Used: 12597 lbs
Cruise Time: 08h12:26 Cruise Fuel Used: 205451 lbs
Average Cruise Speed: 481.56 kt (M0.73) Cruise fuel/hour: 25033 lbs (calc)
Descent Time: 00h31:04 Descent Fuel Used: 9517 lbs


Passenger Opinion: Terror and grief. (0%)
-Were highly entertained by the movie.
-Were in a better mood because they had food.
-Were pleased by the music on ground. A very nice addition to their flying experience.


Crash Financial Report:

Taking into account the state of the aircraft and its current resale value after the crash. The insurance company decided to pay a total of $9,
322,419 which represents 4.25% of the resale value. You can now decide to repair or sell the wreck. The insurance will pay all other
damages. The insurance rate increased by 0.16% and is now 4.48%.
Total Sim Income: $9,322,419

Company Reputation:

Due to the crash, your company reputation is now: 69% (-3.96 decrease)



Overall Flight Result: Crash

Pilot's Penalty points: -850 points
Crash! You hit the ground with an impact speed of -281 ft/mn. There was no failure aboard this aircraft before the crash and many
passengers died because of pilot error. (-850)



( 2 penalty disabled by more_option.cfg )

The AI plane suddenly backing out, I tried to brake and was too close to me and wing tip touched a light pole or something while I was
taxiing... Hunappy


Re: Crash isn't always means crash - Jackal - 27-09-2005

The virtual Passengers in FSPassengers seem to be a particularly fragile bunch!


Re: Crash isn't always means crash - jboweruk - 27-09-2005

Pretty resiliant on one of mine, though how a 737 not looking where he was going on approach to LAX and rear-ending me was
supposed to be my fault escapes me.... BUT, we did survive the mishap.