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[old thread] I need an advice on the rank name list - DanSteph - 14-04-2005
I'll add in the company setting the possibilities to have optionaly "pilot rank limit aircraft type".
That could be an intteresting feature..
Problem is that I'm not satisfied with my ranks name, they are realistic but are not very appealing
at least for the first part of the list and they would not do well with the "rank limit aircraft type" option.
Here the actuall rank vs hour and an idea of what could aircraft type limit,(of course the rank
name have to be changed also):
Code:
00h00 First Officer (c0)
06h00 First Officer (c1) (<light aircraft)
13h00 First Officer (c2) (<two engine light aircraft)
23h00 First Officer (c3) (<ATR 42 and such weight - no jet)
36h00 First Officer (c4) (light jet - 737 and such)
52h00 Senior First Officers (c5) (medium jet)
71h00 Senior First Officers (c6) (heavy jet)
92h00 Senior First Officers (c7)
116h00 Senior First Officers (c8)
143h00 Captain (c9)
173h00 Captain (c10)
206h00 Captain (c11)
242h00 Captain (c12)
281h00 Senior Captain (c13)
322h00 Senior Captain (c14)
366h00 Senior Captain (c15)
413h00 Senior Captain (c16)
463h00 Flying legend (c17)
516h00 Flying legend (c18)
572h00 Flying legend (c19)
631h00 Flying legend (c20)
692h00 Flying God (c21)
756h00 Flying God (c22)Any list suggestion with name and aircraft limit welcome.
Dan
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - DanSteph - 14-04-2005
something like:
00h00 Trainee (c0)
06h00 Simple pilot (c1) (<light aircraft)
13h00 Pilot (c2) (<two engine light aircraft)
23h00 First Officer (c3) (<ATR 42 and such weight - no jet)
36h00 First Officer (c4) (light jet - 737 and such)
52h00 Senior First Officers (c5) (medium jet)
71h00 Captain (c6) (heavy jet)
And what about the rest of the list ?
Dan
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - DanSteph - 14-04-2005
Notice, I'll not change the hours and the Class also not (C0->C22)
because I want to reward peoples that fly really long time with more rank...
C22 is 750 hours of flight....
Dan
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - Shandon - 14-04-2005
If I may.....I would add the rank of ATP Capt. after Senior Capt....say at the 500hour level.....Then Senior ATPCapt....Then flying ledgen...I
would stay away from the term "God" for ....1.it may offend some to apply we are equal to thier interpretation of "God"...( I for one am a
Christian though I find it harmless,I know a few that would take offence....Not including the extremest religions!...2.Fs9 tries to be as
realistic as possible and I feel that this term would make it more "arcade" like then simulator... anyhow what you are doing is fantastic
and am looking forward to its release...Thank You and good luck You will do very well on this!
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - DanSteph - 14-04-2005
Thanks for your advice Shandon...
I thought when I added "god" that it was not a so good idea for the reasons you mention,
and planned to search another name for that...
I think flying legend should then be the last one, when one have 750 hours of flight
one may like to be rewarded.
ATP Captain is a good idea now it just miss 18 ranks
Welcome on this forum....
Dan
"bank than statistics then voice sound than gameplay tuning and last bug correction then - release"
Post Edited ( 04-14-05 08:44 )
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - Shandon - 14-04-2005
I agree...I might even make the legend mark at 1000 hours...or more fore it is exactactly that...A Legend!...I have 1200+ of flight time on our
V.A and still learn something new everyday....So the Legen mark should be a great achievment(sp?)
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - pteixeira - 14-04-2005
Hi Dan,
Let me tell you something.
I agree with the rank, of course it's necessary. But, doesn't look to me too fair enough to evaluate by hours of flight, only. You know that is
somewhat easy to make hours. I think it will be nice if you implement something like "evaluation flight", each time the pilot has a chance to
change his rank. In other others, well, why not to create a flight, made by the company, to evaluate the quality of the pilot?! Something
about 95% for a result on an exam (1 flight) i think it will be perfect.
Another thing that i was wondering to talk to you, it's the certifications needed for some kind of airports. For example, in real life, you need
Oceanic certification to make oceanic flights, as Canarian, Madeia, Azores. For example, as Madeira-Funchal (LPMA) is one of the difficult
landings, you need one certification to make flight from or to that airport.
Well, about the rank... in my opinion, i would like only to see something simple. Like Trainee (Light aircraft, one engine - <10 hours),
Second Officer (2 Engine no Jet - <40 hours), First Officer (Light Jet - <80 hours), Captain (Medium Jet - <200 hours), Senior
Captain(Heavy - <1000) and Master (more than 1000 hours).
By the way... if you can answer my email
!!!
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - DanSteph - 14-04-2005
Quote:pteixeira wrote:
I agree with the rank, of course it's necessary. But, doesn't look to me too fair enough to evaluate by hours of flight, only.
Sure so here comes the pilots points, even with 150 hours of flight you can still be trainee if you don't perform well,
it become dramaticall at higher rank while one bad flight with piloting error can downgrade you quickly...
Usually one flight with many pilot error can give you as much penality point as 2500 or more,
enough to be downgraded by one rank...
So you not only need to make hours of flight but you need to make them right...
Dan
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - DanSteph - 14-04-2005
Quote:pteixeira wrote:
By the way... if you can answer my email
mhhh sorry didn't got it ? what was it about ?
Anyway the best way to get me in touch is to write on the forum instant message system
click on <-Msg link next to my name..
Dan
Post Edited ( 04-14-05 11:04 )
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - djsebx - 14-04-2005
Instead of trainee, maybe "rookie" :D
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - DanSteph - 14-04-2005
Thinking about it we might have two ranks system:
1-No carrer you can flight any type your start with "First officer" (old rank system)
2-Carrer mode, rank limit type and the rank would be something like below:
Code:
[u]can fly light aircraft:[/u]
00h00 Student pilot (c0)
06h00 Senior Student pilot (c1)
13h00 Pilot (c2)
[u]Can fly two engine light prop aircraft:[/u]
23h00 Cpl Pilot (c3)
[u]Can fly ATR 42 and such weight:[/u]
36h00 Second Officer (c4)
52h00 Senior Second Officer (c5)
[u]Can fly light jet - 737 and such:[/u]
71h00 First Officers (c6)
[u]Can fly medium jet:[/u]
92h00 Senior First Officers (c7)
116h00 Senior First Officers (c8)
[u]Can fly heavy jet like 747:[/u]
143h00 Captain (c9)
173h00 Captain (c10)
206h00 Senior Captain (c11)
242h00 Senior Captain (c12)
281h00 Flight Captain (c13)
322h00 Flight Captain (c14)
366h00 Senior Flight Captain (c15)
413h00 Senior Flight Captain (c16)
463h00 Fleet Captain (c17)
516h00 Fleet Captain (c18)
572h00 Senior Fleet Captain (c19)
631h00 Senior Fleet Captain (c20)
692h00 Flying Legend (c21)
756h00 Flying Legend (c22)What you think ? any modification ?
Dan
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - DanSteph - 14-04-2005
Well I forgot ATP Captain but I don't know where it should go here...
Dan
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - DanSteph - 14-04-2005
And the new company creation dialog with the new "career" mode...
A button is available to show you the rank list and the aircraft available for each rank.
![[Image: createcompany_career.jpg]](http://www.fspassengers.com/images/createcompany_career.jpg)
Dan
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - wacs - 14-04-2005
Dan,
First of all thank you for the amazing product you are working on! If done correctly it may bring up a whole new world to the FS community.
My thoughts:
Today I use FS Flight Keeper which give us the "Flight Critique" regarding the standard operational limits (in percentage where 100% is
perfect), so if I flight below 10.000 ft faster than 250 kts, I lose some percentage. If I keep landing lights on above 10,000 ft, I lose few
more percentage, If I forget to adjust altimeter, lose more, being on turbulence for more than 30 minutes, lose more... And so on.
However it does not cover the full "Passenger Comfort" aspect of the flight. If you are going to provide a Ranking, I suggest that this
Ranking represent "Quality" far more than "Quantity". I have around 800 hours logged online, but I can't tell how much of these
were "Quality hours". In other words, how much of these 800 hours represent "well done flights".
That's where I believe FsPassengers can bring a whole new concept. Passengers satisfaction plus number of flights well performed
plus number of hours logged should be used to build the "Pilot Ranking".
In my country, the real world ranking is this:
a) PP - Private Pilot - 40hs visual flying
b) IFR - Instrument Cerfification -90 hs, being 50hs visual flying + 40hs instrument flying
c) CP - Commercial Pilot - 200hs flying
d) ATP - Airliner Transport Pilot - 1500hs flying
With this im mind, my suggestion would be:
000h Rookie (c0)
010h Trainee (c1) (<light aircraft)
020h First Officer (c2) (<two engine light aircraft)
030h First Officer (c3) (<ATR 42 and such weight - no jet)
050h First Officer (c4) (light jet - 737 and such)
070h Senior First Officers (c5) (medium jet)
100h Senior First Officers (c6) (heavy jet)
130h Senior First Officers (c7)
150h Senior First Officers (c8 )
180h Captain (c9)
200h Captain (c10)
230h Captain (c11)
250h Captain (c12)
280h Senior Captain (c13)
300h Senior Captain (c14)
350h Senior Captain (c15)
400h Senior Captain (c16)
500h Master Senior Captain (c17)
550h Master Senior Captain (c18 )
600h Master Senior Captain (c19)
650h Master Senior Captain (c20)
800h Flying Legend (c21)
1000h Master Flying Legend (c22)
Just my 2 cents. Feel free to comment.
Post Edited ( 04-14-05 17:53 )
Re: I need an advice on the rank name list - pagir - 14-04-2005
Quote:DanSteph a écrit:
Thinking about it we might have two ranks system:
1-No carrer you can flight any type your start with "First officer" (old rank system)
2-Carrer mode, rank limit type and the rank would be something like below:
Very interesting!!!
Quote:What you think ? any modification ?
Dan
This system is very interresting: You think fast!!!
Here's a site giving some virtual rank. It's interesting to compare:
http://www.nobleair.com/hubs/aus/Administration/PilotRoster/Slides/ranksystem.html
I suggest that the penalty/bonus should count on both ways: the points should be converted in minuts: + 2500pts give +25 min, -2500 pts give -25 min. (or something like that).
The quality of flight and que quantity will be rewarded this way!!!
Pagir
Message modifié ( 14-04-2005 18:12 )