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Question and suggestion - MadBirdCZ - 21-07-2005
So I purchased FSP and started flying with it. So far I like it a lot but when I wanted to start flying with my favorite plane (the DC-9) I realized 2
things:
1) The payload template for it does not exist
2) and while trying to make my own I ran into a problem...
Here you can see the weight and ballance section of the aircraft.cfg:
Quote:[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
max_gross_weight = 114000
empty_weight = 56850
reference_datum_position = 0.0, 0.0, 0.0
empty_weight_CG_position = 0.0, 0.0, 0.0
station_load.0 = " 340, 43.000, 0.0, 2.0, Pilots (2)"
station_load.1 = " 340, 39.000, 0.0, 2.0, FAs (2)"
station_load.2 = " 680, 29.500, 0.0, 2.0, Row 1 F(4)"
station_load.3 = " 680, 26.600, 0.0, 2.0, Row 2 F(4)"
station_load.4 = " 680, 23.700, 0.0, 2.0, Row 3 F(4)"
station_load.5 = " 680, 20.800, 0.0, 2.0, Row 4 F(4)"
station_load.6 = " 680, 16.000, 0.0, 2.0, Row 5 C(4)"
station_load.7 = " 850, 13.600, 0.0, 2.0, Row 6 C(5)"
station_load.8 = " 850, 11.200, 0.0, 2.0, Row 7 C(5)"
station_load.9 = " 850, 9.800, 0.0, 2.0, Row 8 C(5)"
station_load.10 = " 850, 6.400, 0.0, 2.0, Row 9 C(5)"
station_load.11 = " 850, 4.000, 0.0, 2.0, Row 10 C(5)"
station_load.12 = " 850, 1.600, 0.0, 2.0, Row 11 C(5)"
station_load.13 = " 850, -0.800, 0.0, 2.0, Row 12 C(5)"
station_load.14 = " 850, -3.200, 0.0, 2.0, Row 13 C(5)"
station_load.15 = " 850, -5.600, 0.0, 2.0, Row 14 C(5)"
station_load.16 = " 850, -8.000, 0.0, 2.0, Row 15 C(5)"
station_load.17 = " 850, -10.400, 0.0, 2.0, Row 16 C(5)"
station_load.18 = " 850, -12.800, 0.0, 2.0, Row 17 C(5)"
station_load.19 = " 850, -15.200, 0.0, 2.0, Row 18 C(5)"
station_load.20 = " 850, -17.600, 0.0, 2.0, Row 19 C(5)"
station_load.21 = " 850, -20.000, 0.0, 2.0, Row 20 C(5)"
station_load.22 = " 850, -22.400, 0.0, 2.0, Row 21 C(5)"
station_load.23 = "1000, 23.500, 0.0, -1.5, Fwd Belly(6350)"
station_load.24 = " 740, -25.983, 0.0, -1.5, Aft Belly(2650)"
station_load.25 = " 0, 31.750, 0.0, 2.0, Cargo Row 01-02"
station_load.26 = " 0, 23.250, 0.0, 2.0, Cargo Row 03-04"
station_load.27 = " 0, 14.750, 0.0, 2.0, Cargo Row 05-07"
station_load.28 = " 0, 6.250, 0.0, 2.0, Cargo Row 08-11"
station_load.29 = " 0, -2.250, 0.0, 2.0, Cargo Row 12-14"
station_load.30 = " 0, -10.750, 0.0, 2.0, Cargo Row 15-18"
station_load.31 = " 0, -19.250, 0.0, 2.0, Cargo Row 19-21"
max_number_of_stations = 35
empty_weight_pitch_MOI = 495599
empty_weight_roll_MOI = 312457
empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 859048
empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0
As you can see I'm not flying the normal freight or passenger version but I'm flying the combi which has front and aft belly cargo compartments, holds
passengers in the rear section of the cabin and the front section of the cabin is used for containers. Since in the payload editor we are limited to 6
station only
I realized that the payload editor is missing the option to declare the price class of one of the first four stations as "cargo" whichis needed for airplanes such as the combi DC-9. I would really love if FSP could use the station loads from the aircraft.cfg files and just to group
them internally to sections via the loadmanager ini files. Making payload templates would then be very easy. However I will survive even the fixed 6
station if the option for switching one/all of the first four to cargo as well.
Another thing that would make FSPs more realistic would be the option of selecting TA's (Transition Altitudes) for each airport individually. Right
now you have the option to select the default TA in the options but if you fly from USA to Europe and you fly online (IVAO/VATSIM/FPI) you will most
probably get your pilot's points deducted because you will not set your altimeter in the right TA either in the USA or in the Europe. What I'm
proposing here should not be that hard to implement because.....
- player selects default TA as it is possible at the moment
- when loading the flight and filling in the destination airfield's ICAO code and time of arrival there would be a box for entering the TA for that
airfield
- if thas field is left blank the default TA is used, if the field is filled in the filled value is used and the value gets also saved to the
Icao_db.cfg so the next time the pilot does fly to or from that airport this value is used overriding the global default setting
Well maybe it is just too much hassle but it would for sure made the FSP experience more enjoyable and much closer to reality actually since
especially in Europe the TA's although each country has some general default transition altitude there may be airports in the same country that have
different TA because of the geographical conditions (hills around the airfield etc.)
So what do you think? Am I simply asking too much? (yeah I'm a greedy one)
Re: Question and suggestion - MadBirdCZ - 21-07-2005
And when speaking about the cargo....
I have already seen a thread on this forum asking for the possibility to charge money for transporting cargo, which I fully support! However when I
was thinking about it another idea hit me...
- Every passenger would have not only his weight but would also have some weight of personal cargo asociated. This ammount of "passenger cargo"
(luggage) would be then mandatory to load into the cargo holds (and it should not exceed the total cargo space of the airplane of course) and this
cargo would be then carried for "free" (because the passengers have paid for their tickets)
- If the cargo holds still have room left the player would then have the option to load additional cargo for which the player would be paid for
Well yes, I know... I have too much of free time and I spend it by thinking about unimportant stuff...
Re: Question and suggestion - pagir - 21-07-2005
Zdenek,
Actually, the passenger weight is taking in account his/her baggage (It's why so many pax weights 200lbs over...). But it's true the cargo is
not filled by those baggages...
So why not?
Pagir