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Problems with flaps - billaviz - 14-12-2009

Often, especially with the 747 and the Level-D 767, I have problems with speed-Flaps, although correct, fspassenger creates damage to the
flaps for speed excessive.
Is it possible reset the parameters of fspassengers?
Thank you.


Re: Problems with flaps - iflyfsx - 14-12-2009

It's possible to disable the flaps penalty in the config, and be done with it.


Re: Problems with flaps - billaviz - 15-12-2009

Thanks, I'll try


Re: Problems with flaps - Serviceman - 19-12-2009

Does the aircraft.cfg file match what you expect the flap speeds to be?

Here is an excerpt from the default 747 (FS9)

[flaps.0]
type = 1 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time = 25 // seconds
flaps-position.0 = 0 // degrees
flaps-position.1 = 1 // degrees
flaps-position.2 = 5 // degrees
flaps-position.3 = 10 // degrees
flaps-position.4 = 20 // degrees
flaps-position.5 = 25 // degrees
flaps-position.6 = 30 // degrees
damaging-speed = 200 // KIAS
blowout-speed = 250 // KIAS
lift_scalar = 0.7
drag_scalar = 0.9
pitch_scalar= 0.9
system_type = 1 //Hydraulic

[flaps.1]
type = 2 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time = 2 // seconds
flaps-position.0 = 0 // degrees
flaps-position.1 = 1.0 // degrees
damaging-speed = 250 // KIAS
blowout-speed = 300 // KIAS
lift_scalar = 0.3
drag_scalar = 0.1
pitch_scalar= 0.1
system_type = 1




Re: Problems with flaps - whiskey-zulu - 15-01-2010

Any further news on this topic?




Re: Problems with flaps - tvieno - 19-01-2010

Yeah, that is confusing about what is in the aircraft.cfg.

"damaging-speed = 200 // KIAS
blowout-speed = 250 // KIAS"

But in the checklist, it shows:
Maximum Flap..........Placard Speeds
Flaps degrees.......... KIAS
1...................................280
5...................................260
10.................................240
20.................................230
25.................................205
30.................................180

(c:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\b747_400\boeing747-400_ref.htm)

Why the discrepancy? With the default settings and with FsP running, you will always blow out your flaps if you use the 1 and 5 degree
flaps, despite the Reference page showing that you can 'legally' use flaps up to 280kts.

There are three options to go with: 1. Change the aircraft.cfg to match what the Reference page shows. 2. Change the Reference Page to
match the aircraft.cfg. or 3. Change nothing, but know your limitations.

Another thing, if you look at the aircraft.cfg flap settings, for the flaps on the trailing edge, the blowout speed is 250kts, but for the flaps on
the leading edge, it is 300. You could blow out your trailing flaps long before you blow out your leading edge ones.

[flaps.0]
type = 1 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time = 25 // seconds
flaps-position.0 = 0 // degrees
flaps-position.1 = 1 // degrees
flaps-position.2 = 5 // degrees
flaps-position.3 = 10 // degrees
flaps-position.4 = 20 // degrees
flaps-position.5 = 25 // degrees
flaps-position.6 = 30 // degrees
damaging-speed = 200 // KIAS
blowout-speed = 250 // KIAS
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[flaps.1]
type = 2 // 1 - tail, 2 - lead
span-outboard = 0.8 // 0.0 .. 1.0
extending-time = 2 // seconds
flaps-position.0 = 0 // degrees
flaps-position.1 = 1.0 // degrees
damaging-speed = 250 // KIAS
blowout-speed = 300 // KIAS

In my personal opinion, I'll change the aircraft.cfg. I have no problem with that. Before I move into a new plane, I look at the config and
compare it to RW information I find and change what settings that don't line up. (Which are usually weights, max speeds, fuel capacities).