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Very interesting incident - aibiria - 28-04-2006
Good morning/afternoon/night ladies and gentleman!!
How are we doing??
Well, I was looking at my reports and my pilot points are negative because of an incident it happened a couple of days ago.
I just arrived in Gatwick from Alicante (my passengers weren't happy to come back from their holidays in the sunny spain. When I left
spain that day it was about 25C. When I got Gatwick 10) maybe.... lol
Well, lets go to the point. So I was taxing to the gates when a twin engine was about to leave its gate straight to the runway, As I was
already on the lane and they were still at their gate I just said to myself, come on up and pass them by.
So I did, but suddenly, this bloody idiots I guess they got ready to go and try to get into the lane where I was still with my precious
b737300. Guess what happened.....
That's not my complaint, What I compain of its that fsp detected a crash with other aircraft. Fair enough, good detail from Dan. BUT, how
about the penalty thing.
if you look at the points they took me off you would see that it says. ' the aircraft crash at a v/s of -140 something' ??????????????????
How could it be??? It was pilot error, RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Yes, it was but It was the bloody drunken
pilot in the other plane, not me!!! buah buah buah!!!
Anyways, it doesn't make sense, why that v/s and why that many points????
Don't you think this is a little bit too much?
Right, got it, how about if it was viceversa, i crash the plane with other aircraft, it would be the same story, but... how can I blame my pilot
for another pilots error??
Don't you agree with me??
Here its the report so you have a better look
Flight CA890 flight report log Date April 26 2006
Flight ID: CA890
Pilot: Israel R Crespo
Company: Continental Alicant
Aircraft: FeelThere Boeing 737-300 2D
Flight Date: April 26 2006
Departure: 15h40 (13h40 GMT)
Arrival: --
From: LEAL - Alicante - Spain
To: EGKK - Gatwick - United Kingdom
Nbr of Passengers: 91
Accident Report:
The aircraft collided with another aircraft at 16h57 with a speed of 14 kt.
There were no known failures on this aircraft at the time of the accident.The cause of the crash remains unknown, most probably it was
due to human error. No emergency was declared before the crash.
Casualties:
-91 passengers aboard
-7 killed
-10 injured
-Pilot and flight crew were safe
Report:
Flight Distance: 772 Nm Landing Speed: -- <<<<<<<<<<---- it doesn't say anything about my landing speed
Time Airborne: 02h03:15 Landing Touchdown: -- <<<<<<<<<---- same again
Flight Time (block): 02h17:27 Landing Pitch: --
Time On Ground: 00h15:41 Landing Weight: --
Average Speed: 375.98 kt Total Fuel Used: 12896 lbs
Max. Altitude: FL 360 Fuel Not Used: 8450 lbs
Climb Time: 00h28:44 Climb Fuel Used: 5146 lbs
Cruise Time: 01h09:04 Cruise Fuel Used: 6197 lbs
Average Cruise Speed: 435.29 kt (M0.71) Cruise fuel/hour: 5384 lbs (calc)
Descent Time: 00h25:27 Descent Fuel Used: 1552 lbs
Passenger Opinion: Terror and grief. (0%)
-Were in a better mood because they had food.
-Were pleased by the music on ground. A very nice addition to their flying experience.
Crash Financial Report:
Taking into account the state of the aircraft and its current resale value after the crash. The insurance company decided to pay a total of
$1,536,296 which represents 4.25% of the resale value. You can now decide to repair or sell the wreck. The insurance will pay all other
damages. The insurance rate increased by 0.16% and is now 4.48%.
Total Sim Income: $1,536,296
Company Reputation:
Due to the crash, your company reputation is now: 67% (-3.96 decrease)
Overall Flight Result: Crash
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't understand this part :
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Pilot's Penalty points: -850 points
Crash! You hit the ground with an impact speed of -140 ft/mn. There was no failure aboard this aircraft before the crash and many
passengers died because of pilot error. (-850)
Re: Very interesting incident - Sphagnum - 28-04-2006
I've learned simply to stay away from AI traffic. One time I had massive failures flying into a warzone. I managed to land the plane with a busted
fuel tank, loss of one engine, loss of hydralics, electrical, etc.... I landed it safely, but because I had no electrical and couldn't talk to the
tower, they cleared another plane to take off after I landed and he flew righ through me! Needless to say, if I even SUSPECT that AI trafic might
give me headaches, i just quickly reduce traffic to 0% until they are out of my way. Tehy are not realistic in the slightest, just eye candy when
convenient.....
Re: Very interesting incident - aibiria - 28-04-2006
Yep, I know what you mean, actually, I've been just lately using AI trafffic. The reason why is because I wanted to have some company and
some more realism during the flight.
However, they are very dump and can give you horrible headaches.
But, how about the v/s penalty? I still don't understand it
Laters
Re: Very interesting incident - captain_crunch - 28-04-2006
That's bad
I can't really answer your question about the v/s penalty, but at a guess, when the other plane hit you, your plane might have tipped up off
the ground and FS detected the v/s of it hitting the ground again. A bit strange since FS seems to detect a crash the minute that your
plane goes within a couple of feet of another aircraft or bit of scenery, so I'm probably wrong!
On the subject of AI traffic, I've found that using a traffic density of 50% or less provides you with a bit of company, but without having to
dodge the pretty planes on the Taxiway or (even worse) have to execute constant go-arounds at busy airports. I've also found that if you
use the FS ATC, they make a (semi!) reasonable job of avoiding crashes on the ground. The only collisions I've had have happened
when I was using FSNav without exporting the flightplan to ATC.
I also tend to taxi in spot plane view quite a bit. I'm a terrible cheat
Re: Very interesting incident - Jetsim - 28-04-2006
Just remember that if changing your viewpoint during spot view mode CAN lead to a crash
Re: Very interesting incident - aibiria - 29-04-2006
Quote:captain_crunch wrote:
That's bad
I can't really answer your question about the v/s penalty, but at a guess, when the other plane hit you, your plane might have tipped up off
the ground and FS detected the v/s of it hitting the ground again. A bit strange since FS seems to detect a crash the minute that your
plane goes within a couple of feet of another aircraft or bit of scenery, so I'm probably wrong!
On the subject of AI traffic, I've found that using a traffic density of 50% or less provides you with a bit of company, but without having to
dodge the pretty planes on the Taxiway or (even worse) have to execute constant go-arounds at busy airports. I've also found that if you
use the FS ATC, they make a (semi!) reasonable job of avoiding crashes on the ground. The only collisions I've had have happened
when I was using FSNav without exporting the flightplan to ATC.
I also tend to taxi in spot plane view quite a bit. I'm a terrible cheat
Got your point. You're right. 50 % would be very enough. As I've got ultimate traffic I love to see all these airliners around me. However, as
you've already said its a bit annoying when you do 3 goes around in a row.
I also thought about the jumpy thingy but I don't think fs would reconise that.
Anyways, I already fired myself as tonight I was greedy and didn't put that much fuel on the plane and I consumed some of the rsv fuel... lol
Thanks guys for your comments
Best Regards from London, and Have a very good bank holiday!!