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FSX Crashes to Desktop - Unturned_Fighter - 20-02-2018
dll.xml deletion only solves it for less than a day. I falsely determined that I fixed it because I got three ntdll.dll crashes, but earlier today I got an actual fspassengers crash after a short hop from S88 to 27W.
Install Log
-FsPassengers setup ver. Jan 23 2016 started: 18.02.2018 - 16:09
-Search if FsX is running
-OK FsX is not running
-Attempting to find FsX directory.
-Checking 64 byte registry for fsx vanilla
-Fsx vanilla Directory found: E:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\
-Checking 64 byte registry for fsx steam edition
-64 byte registry not found, checking 32 byte registry for fsx steam edition
-Registry key of FsX steam edition not found or unreadable
-Error - Registry key is FSX but steam version was found. Trying to install anyway
-Checking FsX path, searching this file: E:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\dialogs\dlgabout.spb
-FsX found ok
-Detecting OS and FsPassengers install path...
-Windows 10: 10.0
-FsPassengers will be installed in: C:\Users\Public\Documents\FsPassengers
-Getting FSX version
-FsX version returned: 10.0.62615.0
-FsX version OK: Steam/Acceleration build 62615
-Check free space
-Free space Total Mb available: 2827
-Check needed space
-Needed space: 147
-Previous version detected - this is an upgrade of 2016 version of FsPassengersX.
-No previous version of FsPX 2008 detected.
-AppCompatFlags checked OK
-Start of file copy...
-Extracting file to: C:\Users\Public\Documents\FsPassengers
-Ok: all files extracted correctly
-Attempting to find dll.xml file
-Getting FsX.exe version
-FsX.exe version: 10.0.62615
-fsx.cfg found in C:\Users\colin\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\fsx.cfg
-dll.xml found in C:\Users\colin\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\dll.xml
-Writting FsPassengers addon in dll.xml
-Start of dll.xml parsing----------------------------
-dll.xml, Nbr of addons found: 5
-dll.xml : ' Object Placement Tool' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' Traffic Toolbox' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' Visual Effects Tool' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' FeelThere PhenomX Helper' Xml ok.
-dll.xml : ' Flight Recorder' Xml ok.
-dll.xml written ok
-End of dll.xml parsing----------------------------
-Emptying old installation of FsPassengers into FsX's folder and/or creating new FsPassengers folder C:\Users\Public\Documents\FsPassengers
-Copying FsPassengers files into FSX's folder E:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\FsPassengers
-Attempting to write Config file 'FsPassengers\bin\FsXPath.cfg'
-Config file 'FsPassengers\bin\FsXPath.cfg' written ok
-Creating shortcut in start menu...
-Number of files not replaced by update (to keep user's modification): 585
-Checking and updating more_option.cfg
-No update required for file more_option.cfg
-Checking and updating money_currency.cfg
-No update required for file money_currency.cfg
-Writting FsPassengers's windows in missionpanel.cfg
-missionpanel.cfg - ok
-Adding uninstall key to registry
-Uninstall key added to registry
-Checking if simconnect and all library are installed
-FsPassengersX.dll loaded fine - simconnect and library ok
-Install completed with success
-Writting this log in FsPassengers folder...
FSP log
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FsPassengers X ver. Jan 23 2016
LOG started 19.02.2018 - 13:10
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Start of FsPassengersX.dll
Selected Language:English
No keyboard.ini to load - ok
Getting FSX version
FsX version returned: 10.0.62615.0
FsX version OK: Steam/Acceleration build 62615
Fsx path: E:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX
FsP path: C:\Users\Public\Documents
Loading config file
Nbr of currency found in file: 7
Selected currency:Dollars
Nbr of inflation data found 113
Config file saved
DirectSoundInit->Success
Start Init Failures
End Init Failures OK. Nbr of failures: 40
searching music collection
Music found: 8
Module and mem Listing. Please report those in case of CTD >>>:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
bin\nodump.txt found, no module and memory listing
End of module listing
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All init completed ok - run addon
SimConnect_Open - OK
SimConnect_CallDispatch - OK
End of initialisation - OK
Detect parking brakes available:
Parking brakes available
Function MM GAFN32 start
Function MM GAFN32 end
Function MM GAFN32 start
Function MM GAFN32 end
Correcting payload station nbr. Original was: 5
payload count 6
Payload ini> search loadmodel for: Cessna Skyhawk 172SP
Payload ini> Loading : 172
Payload ini> Loaded: 172.ini
payload count 6
Payload ini> Zero Cg Pos found: 1.00000
original CGPos= 0.15250
payload count 6
Payload ini> search passenger lon: -121.34 lat:47.71 maxpass: 2
Payload ini> zone nbr: 0 use zone list name (self-1): 0 passengers found 3
payload count 6
payload count 6
payload count 6
payload count 6
payload count 6
payload count 6
Fixed gear aircraft, force belly landing disabled
Use FSP ATC ID
ATC Aircraft MTOW is: 2550.00000
Current flight number:
changed to: PBL88
Heavy flag not set
Starting FsPassengers adventure
Function ForceCrashAndCollideFlag
>>>>Crash flag detection forced to 1
>>>>Accident tolerance forced to minimum
>>>>Unlimited fuel forced to 0 (limited)
>>>>Stress cause damage forced to 1
>>>>G effect forced to 1
Function ForceCrashAndCollideFlag end
Loading Crew sound from user chosen directory Sound/CrewPack\default\
Loading crew text, default voice pack used
Disabled penalty flag 4096
Call function GAFFA4645
END function GAFFA4645 found: 49
Call function RAFF43587
End function RAFF43587
Detect parking brakes available:
Parking brakes available
Movies_choices.cfg loaded movies availables: 6
Config file saved
Total Percentage of failure= 5
Pausing FsPassengers adventure
UnPausing FsPassengers adventure
Gps release
Ending FsPassengers adventure
Call function RAFF234GF
End function RAFF234GF
CALC-> START of aircraft degradation---------------------------------------
CALC->AircraftDecradationRate[AircraftIndex]= 0.79346
CALC->Totalhours= 0.75139
CALC->Totaldegradation rate= 0.77214
CALC->Penality_RollOnWrongSurfaceDeparture rate= 0.00000
CALC->Penality_RollOnWrongSurfaceArrival rate= 0.00000
CALC->Penality_UsedParkingBrakeWithSpeed rate= 0.00000
CALC->Penality_MadeBellyLandingSpeed rate= 0.00000
CALC->CrashValueToAddToRate= 0.00000
CALC-> END---------------------------------------
Flight made, new oil market price calculated
End of FsPassengersX.dll
Deleting Failures
DirectSoundDeinit-> Success
Config file saved
SimConnect_Close - OK
Administrative Tools Event Viewer
Faulting application name: fsx.exe, version: 10.0.62615.0, time stamp: 0x559f9a9a
Faulting module name: fspassengersx.dll_unloaded, version: 4.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x56a2dbbe
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00035080
Faulting process id: 0x13c0
Faulting application start time: 0x01d3a9c5a4ce38aa
Faulting application path: E:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\fsx.exe
Faulting module path: fspassengersx.dll
Report Id: 9c8b0114-a871-422b-adeb-e1691a10fa20
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Error Message Proper:
Some things such as the name may or may not be 100% accurate - it is roughly correct though
Microsoft Flight Simulator X has stopped working
Options are: Debug and OK. The Just-In-Time Debugger is apparently trying to search for something that doesn't exist. OK just results in it waiting a few seconds and crashing to desktop.
RE: FSX Crashes to Desktop - Joeflyer - 20-02-2018
Exception code: 0xc0000005= access violation error. This raised the red flag for me. There may be more happening with your system than just FsP helping to trigger this error:
Error code 0xc0000005 is one of Windows very broad errors. This is because it can be caused by different factors related to an installed program, installed hardware or both. The following are just a few of the many possible causes:
An installed program such as the antivirus program that prevents the smooth start of a program.• Either corrupt or missing hardware drivers.
Incorrect system hardware configuration.
Either low memory or damaged RAM
Virus/Malware infection.
An old program.
Corrupt or damaged system registry files.
Data execution security feature (DEP).
RE: FSX Crashes to Desktop - Unturned_Fighter - 20-02-2018
I'm pretty sure it's not any hardware drivers - they are all up to date.
I'm also pretty sure it's not any of the others, because it worked just fine before. I reinstalled FSX:SE on Friday (Pacific Standard Time, US), then reinstalled FSPassengers and within 5 to 50 minutes it starts crashing. Dll.xml deletion worked fine for less than a day, at which point I falsely assumed it was fixed (which it wasn't).
I would only be confident it would be the issues you listed out if Windows 10 f***ed something up about FSX:SE and FSPassengers when I wasn't looking. It worked fine before which is really weird. If you need any more info, feel free to ask (if I didn't post anything more by then).
RE: FSX Crashes to Desktop - Unturned_Fighter - 20-02-2018
I'm also going to add - it's not only an FSPassengers crash. When I seem to have "fixed" FSPassengers, FSX:SE itself crashes due to an ntdll.dll error which is just as frustrating. It generally takes just as long for it to crash compared to FSPassengers itself. So I do agree that it is indeed more than FSPassengers, however I'm not sure whether there is more than FSPassengers.dll_unloaded and ntdll.dll
RE: FSX Crashes to Desktop - Joeflyer - 21-02-2018
Looking at the above FsP install log and log.txt didn't reveal anything that would cause FsP issues or your FSX-SE issues. ntdll.dll errors are typically graphics related. Hence, we are now talking about an additional problem. First the access violation and now the ntdll issue.
I don't know how many addons you have installed in -SE or how aggressive you adjusted the sliders in game. A combination of things may be triggering these errors. Perhaps have you tried system restore to a point before all of the crashes began? If not, maybe that could help.
One thing is for certain...the process of elimination can be tedious when multiple issues start creeping up. Ive been there, done that.
If things get too tedious, generally a fresh installation of your OS is the best bet. Start all over again. I've had to do that, too. Fortunately it's been over 4 years though. Reminds me...time for a new rig! LOL
RE: FSX Crashes to Desktop - Unturned_Fighter - 21-02-2018
I will try a complete refresh tonight. Thank you for your input. I'll see if htat helps, if it doesn't then I'd be at a loss.
RE: FSX Crashes to Desktop - Joeflyer - 21-02-2018
I would be at a loss as well if a fresh OS installation doesn't cure the ills. You could look around to see if there is a OS optimization guide for -SE as well. That could help in keeping gremlins from interfering.
RE: FSX Crashes to Desktop - Unturned_Fighter - 21-02-2018
I've let my computer do a factory reset over night and let it install windows and do a couple updates this morning. After waiting for FSX to install and installing FSPassengers, I fired up the game to do a troubleshooting flight that's about 40 minutes - from Seattle to Snohomish if you're curious - and it seems to have worked. Just shut the plane down as I'm typing this, and I'm impressed that it worked. I also had GSX installed the entire flight and it worked flawlessly!
RE: FSX Crashes to Desktop - Joeflyer - 21-02-2018
That's promising indeed. BUT, only install ONE addon at a time and test for a while just to make sure there aren't any problems. I wouldn't go through the process of installing all addons and then think everything is going to be fine.