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Maydays - Jetflyer - 02-01-2006
Yes I know this may sound like I haven't read the FAQ, but today I attempted my first flight with the Level D 767 and I had an engine failure on climb
out. I had NO WORD from the first officer and so I didn't declare an emergency. I thought that Level D's own emergency emulator must have caused the
failure therefore.
BUT when I landed, I was penalised for not declaring an emergency, and FSP said it had caused it! I didn't know that! As a result I really am asking
you Dan please if could make it allowed for people to declare an emergency in any situation that goes wrong, even if it is not caused by FSP. Me
thinking that the engine failure was caused by the level D software and not FSP caused me to be penalised for NOT declaring an emergency, but since I
had no knowing which software did cause it, it's just not fair to add that confusion.
I really would like to see it made possible to declare an emergency in any situation the pilot considers to be an ermergency. Nobody is going to
willingly declare a false emergency anyway, something must go wrong somehow for someone to declare an emergency.
The fact is, an engine failure caused by FSP or NOT, is still an emergency, and worthy of declaring one. I thought I couldn't in this case because I
thought the failure was not caused by FSP, but it WAS, without me knowing, do you see the confusion it can cause?
I am not attacking your program at all here Dan so don't take this the wrong way, but in most of these cases I don't know which software is causing
the emergency; the FO didn't say so, and I just end up getting penalised either way.
Re: Maydays - WBHoenig - 02-01-2006
Just so you know, you can put a little option on your mini report that says if it is a legit failure or not. However, it deducts points from your
bonus if it is.
Re: Maydays - DBE - 02-01-2006
Added to that: how to you expect FsP to be able to deal with emergencies created by all the add-on aircraft out there??
Remember the issue with the PSS Airbus and the light penalties? A lot of addons don't use the standard FS SDK, which FsP uses to interface with FS9;
so, believe me: it's a near-to impossible request!
Re: Maydays - Jetflyer - 02-01-2006
I don't mean that FSP be able to actually detect failures caused by other software. What I mean is that it should let you declare a mayday in any case
(even if there isn't one, however) but just so if you are unsure, you don't get penalised either way.
Re: Maydays - Jetflyer - 02-01-2006
Not only that, but FSP sais the engine hadn't even shut down "the aircraft managed to land before the engine shut down" but IT DID SHUTDOWN!!! I had
to shut it down because it wasn't producing any thrust. And FSP didn't notice!
Re: Maydays - DanSteph - 02-01-2006
the mighty FAQ: When to declare an emergency, avoid false emergencies?
http://www.fspassengers.com/?action=faq&question=21
Dan
Re: Maydays - Jetflyer - 02-01-2006
Well the FAQ doesn't really say anything about this case....I know it was a "hidden failure" but I didn't know if FSP or the plane was causing it.
. Oh nevermind, forget it!Re: Maydays - bergm - 02-01-2006
Quote:Jetflyer wrote:
Not only that, but FSP sais the engine hadn't even shut down "the aircraft managed to land before the engine shut down" but IT DID
SHUTDOWN!!! I had
to shut it down because it wasn't producing any thrust. And FSP didn't notice!
My understanding is that if the engine doesn't shut down by itself FSP won't know it shut down at all, even if you manually shut down the engine. I
also don't think it'd be possible to let you declare and emergency whenever you wanted because if FSP didn't cause the fairlure how is FSP going to
know how many points to give you.
Re: Maydays - WBHoenig - 02-01-2006
Quote:Jetflyer wrote:
I don't mean that FSP be able to actually detect failures caused by other software. What I mean is that it should let you declare a mayday in any case
(even if there isn't one, however) but just so if you are unsure, you don't get penalised either way.
So you can all of a sudden warp time and space to where the pax were never frightened in the first place?
Re: Maydays - Jetflyer - 02-01-2006
Quote:WBHoenig wrote:
Quote:Jetflyer wrote:
I don't mean that FSP be able to actually detect failures caused by other software. What I mean is that it should let you declare a mayday in any case
(even if there isn't one, however) but just so if you are unsure, you don't get penalised either way.
So you can all of a sudden warp time and space to where the pax were never frightened in the first place?
What?? I don't understand that!
I just mean that if I get a failure at all, not from FSP, I should still be able to declare an emergency even if FSP doesn't detect the failure. In
this case, there will never be any confusion as to when I should/shouldn't declare one. As for the passengers being frightened, they will be scared
when an emergency is declared.