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How do you earn money? - cessnatim - 20-05-2005 If I was to start out in a small aircraft and gain 500 dollars net after each flight it would take me 2,000 flights to gain a million dollars. I don’t suppose FsP expects us to actually fly 2,000 flights our selves? Is there a way to simulate flights and perhaps virtual FsP pilots? Tim Re: How do you earn money? - DanSteph - 20-05-2005 You can't in real life start a small company flying cessna 172 and expect to buy a 737 even some years later, so this is realistic. In FsP your income for one flight is multiplied by a factor, for now it's 50 but it will perhaps need somes tuning after massive beta testing (for now tester seem satisfied by it) So in fact you can expect to buy in about 20 flight the same type of aircraft you are flying, the tips is to upgrade slowly to have more capacity and more income.. If you want to start a company in career mode you may still start with a $50million company, at first you buy small aircraft only until your pilot is qualified for jet type than you buy your first jet and try to buy more... This said you can choose your cash at start of one company from 3mo$ to 600mo$. and don't forget you can buy old aircraft that cost less but may carry their how set of risk... Dan Re: How do you earn money? - DanSteph - 20-05-2005 Anyways, thinking about it FsP is very open and you can define scenario setting for company creation... using those scenario you can set whatewer you want as income multiplier... so you are allowed to set even 200x for income multiplier... in a couple of flight you might buy a bigger airplane, then from this one a bigger etc etc... in 20-40 flight you might be able to buy a 747 starting with a cessna... read here for scenario setting: http://www.fspassengers.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=32 and here for more: http://www.fspassengers.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=46&pid=304#pid304 (since those forum announce screen has changed but the principe remain the same) Dan Re: How do you earn money? - jboweruk - 20-05-2005 So thanks to the multiplier you could theoretically assume that other pilots are actually flying for you, you just don't see or pay them. Could the factor perhaps also in some way be tied to the number of aircraft you own? Or is that too difficult at this late stage? Re: How do you earn money? - DanSteph - 20-05-2005 Quote:jboweruk wrote: The factor is here to compensate the time... you can't fly 9'000 hours as the company do currently with their aircrafts before buying another one... mhhhh I must think more about this and discuss with others. That would solve one bad things: even if you hown 15 aircraft you can only fly one at a time so you will not gain much for having one or 15... this might be discouraging... mhhhh ![]() The factor must be set also by aircraft type... you don't want to add a +50x factor to your 737 income if the other plane is a cessna 172... Will think more about this and reply soon... I must think about all possible odd side effect. You had a Nice idea anyway.... VERY nice idea.... I love it Dan Post Edited ( 05-20-05 11:05 ) Re: How do you earn money? - DanSteph - 20-05-2005 mhhhh ![]() Dan ![]() Re: How do you earn money? - DanSteph - 20-05-2005 Oh well.... a factor per weight of aircraft howned ???? 737=40 ton = 40x 172= 2 ton= 2x 747=200ton=200x so lets say you just flied your 737, you have a 242x multiplier... !!?? ![]() Well... other plane weight might have only a part of their weight taken in account Dan Post Edited ( 05-20-05 10:43 ) Re: How do you earn money? - DanSteph - 20-05-2005 Mhhhh I must make some more test but I think I got it.... Total Income=((Income of this flight*Base factor)/MTOW)*square root(Total weight of others aircraft/100)*1000 Say you fly a 737, you earned $25'000 on your flight total aircraft income=$1'500'000 (x50 base factor) Fleet income if you hown also a 747&777=$2'163'397 Fleet income if you hown only a ATR42=$237'552 Fleet income if you hown only another 737=$479'353 Fleet income if you hown 737 777 747 atr42 a319 a320 a330 tu154 = $5'272'792 It seem the calculus is good because the less you earn the less your fleet earn also the number don't go crazy if you have a big fleet (my first idea showed $200'000'000'000 income for a big fleet ![]() The end-of flight report may show one "fleet" line just before final result: Flight income: $1'500'000 (x50 multiplier) Fleet income : $479'353 (1 aircraft) Total Sim income : $1'979'353 Of course you will have reduced income for bad flight and no fleet income for crash, also I think to make the "fleet income" optionnal when you create your company... The only odd things come for the statistics: what to do with those "ghost" flight... I cannot include them in the statistics.... Dan Post Edited ( 05-20-05 11:29 ) Re: How do you earn money? - jboweruk - 20-05-2005 Maybe you just assume an average quality. So income would be still based on your performance. Unless you just factor it in as average pilots across the fleet, thereby somehow cut out your income after a screw up, and take it as income before X the multiplier then add the players actual income after? If you get my drift. example, player flight earns 23000 player crashed = 0 fleet earns 23000 * #aircraft in fleet * weight modifier (eg 1X737@200) total $4600000 player earns nil total fleet income then =$4600000 That work? Re: How do you earn money? - Auduns - 20-05-2005 Hi there I'm sorry I can't give any help in this topic. ![]() But if you can get this thing working it would be great, giving a reward system for the number of aircraft would make the feeling great. And thank you to Dan for putting up with all the suggestions. :D Great work man!!!!!!!!! Re: How do you earn money? - DanSteph - 20-05-2005 Quote:jboweruk wrote: I was thinking is should be based on your overall flight result... if using my previous calculus you should get a fleet income of $1'000'000 and the overall satisfaction is 50% <you would get only a fraction of this amount I'm searching right now a exponential calculus so 100% overall result mean 100% fleet income but 90% will get only 50% of fleet income and such... only excellent flight without any fault are rewarded... Dan Re: How do you earn money? - DanSteph - 20-05-2005 got it: should do about this: (flight result=fleet income percentage) 100=100% 90=80% 80=60% 70=40% 60=20% 50=0% 40=0% 30=0% 20=0% 10=0% 0=0% Notice this is the OVERALL result of your flight, your passengers may be 100% satisfied by the flight but if you forgot some important things you might get no fleet income at all... Dan Re: How do you earn money? - fruitfly - 20-05-2005 So in other words you are separating the progress of your fleet from the progress of you as a pilot? Great! Re: How do you earn money? - pagir - 20-05-2005 But if you have an airline doing only humanitary mission over, say, Iraq... You never have good flights! So, you will never got enough money... but you got the job done! I'm not that sure... Pagir Re: How do you earn money? - fruitfly - 20-05-2005 Well... if you're flying over Iraq because of humanitarian reasons, you shouldn't be complaining about not earning a lot of money! ![]() And if you're there for the quick money......... ![]() Post Edited ( 05-20-05 17:08 ) |