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Shaked passengers - pegase - 01-11-2005
I am now learning flying my Legendary 707.
I am now OK with her except the automatic pilot. Switching on/off or changing mode can result in sharp dolphin jumps. Then I found sometimes in the
cabin an awfull dirty mix of passengers, food, hand luggages, flight attendents, and electronic devices in a sauce of mixed drinks and coffee (POUARK
!!!).... And some penalties at the end of my reports.
So, for now, I take care to ask passengers and crew to fasten their seat belts tightly and get ready for "rock and roll" before trying anything with
this F.@#*!! PA...
But I cannot ask the crew to interrupt service. Same problem when I have weather turbulences and strong gusts during cruise.
All ground staff in charge of cabin cleaning agree that It would be nice in a further version to have an option "shake warning" which trigger the seat
belt sign and interrupt food/drink service. when for any kind of reason, weather or unclever pilot, some shaking are expected to happend.
As the pilot must keep motivated to do well,It could add bonus when it's a weather source and lower the penalties when it's human fault.
Re: Shaked passengers - DanSteph - 01-11-2005
mhhh crappy AP?
Did you tried to get where's located the trim when the aircraft is steady with AP on ?
you might then perhaps preselect this trim before engaging AP ?
Dan
Re: Shaked passengers - SaVas - 01-11-2005
If you are referring to the CS 707, as you are reaching your cruising altitude, begin levelling off to around 200/fpm, then engage the AP to
hold the altitude. When you are ready to descend click the lever that will raise or lower your pitch and click it to lower, so when you
disengage the alt hold the change isnt so abrupt. Otherwise it seems if you are clibing at 1000 fpm and do an alt hold, then when ready
to descend, it seems it will pitch the ac up to the same 1000 fpm causing your pax to get frightened.
Re: Shaked passengers - pegase - 01-11-2005
Quote:When you are ready to descend click the lever that will raise or lower your pitch and click it to lower, so when you
disengage the alt hold the change isnt so abrupt.
I think, Savas, you hit one of my errors, I usually first disengage altitude and then set the pitch. This is OK with the DF B727 which is always
very smooth in all changes, but obviously not with the CS 707. despite they both are suposed to model the same AP.
But I still have a lot to learn with the CS AP... I usually can't get the LOC/GS beeing effective. I know it can work because IIt worked ONCE (This
is never a problem on the DF 727).
On the last flight, it was simply impossible to do anything else than keeping the current altitude and preset heading. During climb or descent , the
pitch knob looked totally useless.
Fortunately, she is quite friendly to fly manually once used with her truck-like inertia
Quote:mhhh crappy AP?
Did you tried to get where's located the trim when the aircraft is steady with AP on ?
you might then perhaps preselect this trim before engaging AP ?
I only engage the auto pilot when the plane is already trimmed to keep stable on the wished configuration. But here it is not enough to avoid bumps...
Crappy AP ? I don't know, may be it is just realistic and needs more experience ?
Despite this AP issue, I love this 707 since my first flight, and then more and more. As soon as I tooke off , I was surprised to hear in my head
"WEW!! This is not a toy..." Total nonsense about a computer game
But tells all about the immersive atmosphere provided by this plane.I just regret the documentation is rather tiny