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Re: Had it with MS ATC - samiranks - 20-11-2005
well lets hope SWAFO when you go out on that southwest flight you dont say airwave flt 4053 taxiing to runway ?? remeber real and not
virtual and remember not to ignore atc in real world i will be flying southwest soon...
Re: Had it with MS ATC - SWAFO - 21-11-2005
What do you mean? My copy of FS9 has "SOUTHWEST" as one of the callsigns. Why would I say "Airwave"?
Re: Had it with MS ATC - jeremy19446 - 21-11-2005
Or if I dont feel like putting up with ATC I just switch my frequency to somthing that doesnt exist so I dont have to hear a word from them,
sure its unrealistic and sure in real world if you switched your frequency to somthing unknown the whole flight ummmmmmm the FAA
would take away your pilots licence...but somtimes you just dont feel like talking to ATC. MS ATC make me want to
Re: Had it with MS ATC - xvxmatthewxvx - 21-11-2005
Amen Jeremy
AISmooth seems to help Thank you.
Re: Had it with MS ATC - Dutch64 - 21-11-2005
At least we now know why we all drink on this forum
This and encounter pilots like Mud up there
Re: Had it with MS ATC - pegase - 21-11-2005
The smiley
would be a fine logo for MS ATC. However, ad Brad wrote there are some fly arounds.When we don't want to have my flight cancelled because I don't answer them during long cruise, we can when it assign a new frequency
acknowlege, tune the new frequency but DON'T CONTACT until we are back ready to play with ATC. I usually suspend ATC at about the
end of climb and reconnect shortly before descent.
The go arounds are always rather long trips. So as soon as you are in good position to re-insert into the approach pattern, cancel the
flight, reload the flight plan and re-open. You will be almost immediately be vectored to approach and can save 20-30 minutes and a
pretty amount of fuel.
What I don't know is how to obtain clearance on other runway that the assigned. We are supposed to make the approach on the runway
we selected and land on the runway assigned by the ATC ???
The ATC ignores totallly the SID and STAR which is annoying for acurate flight planning.
There would be much less go arounds if ATC could handle hold patterns.
Until today, I was never vectored into a moutain by the FS9.1 ATC. (this was a big speciality in FS98) Malaga approach to runway 14
sneaks between mountains and the ATC always drove me properly.
But, especially for visual approachs it sometimes keeps us at such altitude that when we are cleared for the final, we need an helicopter
to follow such steep descent slope.
Conclusion: ATC is better than dead silence but I am very curious about Radar Contact.
Re: Had it with MS ATC - DBE - 21-11-2005
Quote:pegase wrote:
Until today, I was never vectored into a moutain by the FS9.1 ATC.
Then I've got the ideal airport for you, pegase: LIMJ! Try taking off and "follow runway heading" until ATC hands you over to another frequency.
Re: Had it with MS ATC - pegase - 21-11-2005
Quote:DBE wrote:
Then I've got the ideal airport for you, pegase: LIMJ! Try taking off and "follow runway heading" until ATC hands you over to
another frequency.
OK, I will have a try... with a cheap empty plane, a stripe circling my head and a last Sake before take off
BANZAI !!!
Post Edited ( 11-21-05 18:11 )
Re: Had it with MS ATC - jules17 - 21-11-2005
I'm using Radar Contact V3 and looks like I'll upgrade to Version 4, It's so much better than the MS ATC.
The AI Traffic isn't very smart either, yesterday I had some Citation or whatever landing in front of me, so ATC advised me to hold short.
Looking to my left I wondered where that Citation is...well I couldn't see it, since it was at the threshold at about 3000ft, all of a sudden
descending at about 1000 feet per second (oh yeah), pulling the nose up during the hell dive and crashing into the ground with a speed of about 600
knots lol, 'United 281, cleared for take off' :applause
Re: Had it with MS ATC - DBE - 21-11-2005
Quote:pegase wrote:
Quote:DBE wrote:
Then I've got the ideal airport for you, pegase: LIMJ! Try taking off and "follow runway heading" until ATC hands you
over to
another frequency.
OK, I will have a try... with a cheap empty plane, a stripe circling my head and a last Sake before take off
BANZAI !!!
C'mon, mon ami: I'm just referring to Genoa, not Okinawa!
Re: Had it with MS ATC - jeremy19446 - 21-11-2005
On the box of the FS they should put NOTE: Microsoft ATC may make you want to
and 
and but dont let this discourage you frombuying our product filled with bugs
Re: Had it with MS ATC - pegase - 22-11-2005
Quote:C'mon, mon ami: I'm just referring to Genoa, not Okinawa!
Ah... OK, I must change some details in my test procedure:
I leave the yoke to someone else just telling him "I bet you won't be able to follow exactly the ATC assignment...".
I watch the result from the control tower (In FS2004: Let's see how AI handle this...)
I replace the Sake with Grappa with the big advantage it is not supposed to be the last one
Re: Had it with MS ATC - SWAFO - 22-11-2005
Quote:jeremy19446 wrote:
On the box of the FS they should put NOTE: Microsoft ATC may make you want to
you from
buying our product filled with bugs
The sad thing is that if the box actually said that, we'd all buy it
Re: Had it with MS ATC - poden - 22-11-2005
Generally, if I find ATC is out of whack I cancel the IFR plan, and keep re-requesting/cancelling landing intentions until I get a clear permission to
land. If ATC is out of whack AND the airport is IFR only, I raise the bar to the next extreme and just manually clear the weather. I don't let
faulty ATC mess up my flights.
Re: Had it with MS ATC - bloha - 22-11-2005
Quote:Dutch64 wrote:
At least we now know why we all drink on this forum
This and encounter pilots like Mud up there
This is also the reason why I'm not bother whenthe ATC keeps ordering me about from the left to the right!
Just aim at the runway and pass the bottle
.Hans