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Re: Flight1 MD-80 - eazy - 04-01-2006
You're definitely not! I'm currently working out some methods for proper take-off. The most successful so far is not to touch anything on
the autopilot
What I do atm is climb manually until the aircraft is clear (gear up / flaps up) and at about 220 kts. Then I engage AP with Heading Hold (or NAV,
if you fly by ONS). After that I switch on auto throttle and IAS mode and accelerate the dial slowly(!) to 240 (I don't select 250 as it tends to
overshoot). This worked 3 times in a row now
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - silo - 04-01-2006
It was fine last night. The only thing is that the ap works differently from what we are used to. Try this:
First make sure you have a proper altitude selected in the ap (ie. the altitude to which you were cleared initially or the final altitude).
Second after 1000 feet agl, click on the knob just under the ap altitude display, then engage ap and right after click on the VSI wheel
where it display the + sign. You will see it will go from whatever value it was set at to 1900+ VSI. If it doesn't, click on the knob below the altitude again and then on the VSI as above.
Now you have also hdg hold engaged, if you want to turn, select the heading you want to turn to and then click on the knob where the
minus sign is displayed (you will basically pull the knob). The ac will turn towards your selected hdg. Or click on NAV to engage the autonavigation.
This worked for me but it doesn't mean is the proper procedure. I just did one flight and actually now I'm just about to try another one. I will
check these things myself.
Post Edited ( 01-04-06 19:53 )
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - silo - 04-01-2006
Yep, I just double-ckd and it works as I said. The thing is that first yu need to arm the altitude (by pulling on the knob) and then you
engage AP and then you click on the vsi wheel when it shows the minus sign. For the hdg, you input the value and then you click on the
knob underneath (again minus sign) to engage it.
Post Edited ( 01-04-06 21:27 )
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - ivo - 04-01-2006
I don't have a big problem on take off. I just set the stabilizer and flaps, release the parking brake and set takeoff power. When he tells
me to rotate, I do. The plane takes off and I hand fly until I am 1000AGL. Then I engage the autopilot to follow the heading I want and the
altitude I want. Then I engage the A/T.
About landing, I never got that far.
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - CODY614 - 04-01-2006
Quote:silo wrote:Yup...Arm the altitude hold...AP...On...Click on the VSI knob....Seriously...It will go from +1500-+1700.. to -800 fpm in the blink of eye.This is
Yep, I just double-ckd and it works as I said. The thing is that first yu need to arm the altitude (by pulling on the knob) and then you
engage AP and then you click on the vsi wheel when it shows the minus sign. For the hdg, you input the value and then you click on the
knob underneath (again minus sign) to engage it.
were I'm having trouble...So it's got to be something on my end....Joystick or FSUIPC...or something.
I'm just wondering if when I let go of the joystick to click the mouse button for the VSI, if the joy stick might be "Out of trim" or
"Calibration"....But I just checked that the other day...
I'll play some more....Thanks guys........
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - silo - 05-01-2006
Nope...when you arm the altitude after take off the vsi will display the current rate of climb until you finally click on the wheel. So I suspect that that's what you see (up and down) because you are going up and down with the attitude while trying to engage the ap.
Before t/o, arm the altitude (pull the knob). The only thing you need to do after to, above 1000 agl, engage ap and click on the wheel
(where it shows the + sign). That will take care of the climb. Of course you might wanna clean the a/c a little in the meantime.
It works great for me.
Post Edited ( 01-05-06 01:36 )
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - CODY614 - 05-01-2006
Yup.........you got it!.......First....I was rushing the plane....Cleaning up,gear-up...etc...To many pitch changes...and not being able to catch up
with the trim!...Whew!
Thanks guys!
Jeff T.
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - silo - 05-01-2006
Glad to be of help!
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - CODY614 - 05-01-2006
![[Image: autoland180.jpg]](http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/CODY614/autoland180.jpg)
Yea.......My first "Auto-land"!
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - bergm - 05-01-2006
How do you set the stabalizer correctly? I always get bitched at when I take off.
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - eazy - 05-01-2006
Looks good! Yesterday I repeated the community flight from LSGG to LIRF (offline) to see if I could make it in the MD-80, and for the first time everything
went fine from take-off to landing. You just have to know about the glitches and work around them
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - CODY614 - 05-01-2006
Click on the airspeed indicator and window opens up...take off settings....all the way at the bottom....28/15.....then go to the center console for
the throttles....bottom left corner....set to 28/15...and then see what the "Long trim" says..usually 7.5...set that trim as you would for any other
plane...Sometimes as the takoff roll starts you may have to bump the trim a little up or down to get her to shut up!
Jeff T.
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - silo - 05-01-2006
Good job Jeff! Isn't that nice when you can finally fly it without major probs?
By the way, anybody flew this plane with FsP yet? I downloaded the payload model available in the download section (search for super80
or super 80). Is it really necessary to modify the aircraft.cfg? I just flew with some pax without modification of the cfg and the a/c seems to
work fine (maybe a little nose heavy). However the dispatch center doesn't reflect the modifications done by FsP, only the fuel is correctly
modified. Will that work if I change the cfg as specified in the readme?
And one more thing. Right now I am first loading the a/c without any pax (dispatch center). Then I start FsP,add pax, cargo and modify fuel
as required. Is this the way is supposed to be done?
Cheers
Silo
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - CODY614 - 05-01-2006
Quote:silo wrote:My guess at this point is the only thing to worry about is the weight/fuel panel.....As long as it updates with proper fuel on board we should be okay?
Good job Jeff! Isn't that nice when you can finally fly it without major probs?
By the way, anybody flew this plane with FsP yet? I downloaded the payload model available in the download section (search for super80
or super 80). Is it really necessary to modify the aircraft.cfg? I just flew with some pax without modification of the cfg and the a/c seems to
work fine (maybe a little nose heavy). However the dispatch center doesn't reflect the modifications done by FsP, only the fuel is correctly
modified. Will that work if I change the cfg as specified in the readme?
And one more thing. Right now I am first loading the a/c without any pax (dispatch center). Then I start FsP,add pax, cargo and modify fuel
as required. Is this the way is supposed to be done?
Cheers
Silo
I read in the Super forum, they recomend staying away from the 'Dispatch Center' when using "FSP"
I just dont know about modifying the A/C.config.....dispatch center is controlled by the "Super80.ini file"
Read ESPEN's " reloads the wrong aircraft" in the FAQ.
Dispatch center seems to be like all the other configuration mgr out there, but it runs in the 'sim'......doesnt' matter what you do with them,"FSP"
changes them.
The only thing I would like to see is what PMDG did with "Fuel quanity" in the options....because that wil override what "FSP' did with the fuel.
Jeff T.
Re: Flight1 MD-80 - silo - 05-01-2006
I just loaded the a/c with FsP again. No I'm not touching the Dispatch Center, only to see if it refects the changes done by FsP. And right
now it only showed change in fuel even though I loaded the a/c with pax and cargo. So now I have to different set of CG, GW,ZFW. One
made by FsP and one from Dispatch Center. Which one should I input in the Performance Management System (PMS)?
Man the avionics noise is so high. It covers all sounds from FsP! Is there a way to lower it from Md80 options or I'll have to modify the wav?